Introduction

Ranger13 · Apr 14, 2009, 09:29 PM

I, too, had an exciting first tail-heavy flight, but thanks to my extraordinary piloting skills (and an astounding amount of luck) was able to push enough down elevator to get control long enough to trim the airplane and land it.

I had to add 2.75 oz. of lead under the fuselage, just behind the cowl to get the CoG right. Luckily, I found a thread on EZone that provided the CoG location.

This is a very good looking and well-mannered airplane.

melcrose · Apr 14, 2009, 10:59 PM

Great review! Too bad you can't have a higher quality movie.. 1.76mb? That would be "small" for dial-up!

Avi would be nice as well.

Thanks again for the review!

Driggs · Apr 15, 2009, 06:48 AM

great plane! great review! i too have this with a 480 size motor with 960kv and its a really great performer

PerlAddict · Apr 15, 2009, 09:38 AM

I've got one of these on the bench to build right now. The stock motor looks adequate, but a more powerful motor would be nice. I bet that 480 sized motor does really well.

hugocraft · Apr 15, 2009, 12:20 PM

Just wish they would sell this in something like a plug-n-play or reciever ready version.

wahrhaftig · Apr 15, 2009, 05:05 PM

Hugocraft, I certainly agree with you. I don't understand why they insist on packaging radios with aircraft that are not really meant for beginners and which properly should be bought be people who already probably have radios.
Furthermore, the supplied radio did not last long (just wouldn't work - I don't know what was wrong with it) and I substituted one of my JR radios. Being able to fly with some exponential really made a large positive difference. I will confess, too, that I find that the location of the CG not being furnished in the instructions is very annoying. I had to call up and get a figure from HL.

Driggs · Apr 15, 2009, 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PerlAddict

I've got one of these on the bench to build right now. The stock motor looks adequate, but a more powerful motor would be nice. I bet that 480 sized motor does really well.

its just right, it took some work to get the one i used in, i cutt the nose off of the plane right at the seem, to set the motor back so it would look right ,then i put a peice of light ply on the front then i glued the nose back on, i used a parkzone corsair motor and mount from a old fuse i had ,it really worked out good, i found the plane didnt seem to have enough power going into the wind, (for me anyway) now it will fly very good in the wind and do everthing i want with ease, it really is a nice flyer

78dave · Apr 16, 2009, 07:42 AM

Excellent Alan! I love Waco's especially yellow ones.

warhead_71 · Apr 16, 2009, 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hugocraft

Just wish they would sell this in something like a plug-n-play or reciever ready version.

I agree. In fact, I wish you could get one NPS (no power system) the way GWS does it... just a plain white airframe that I can paint myself with Krylon H2O paint. I'd buy more than one if they could be had for the same price as the GWS TigerMoth TM400 NPS.

toddsl · Apr 17, 2009, 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by melcrose

Great review! Too bad you can't have a higher quality movie.. 1.76mb? That would be "small" for dial-up!

Avi would be nice as well.

Thanks again for the review!

Check youtube. I've got some vids on there and others have posted some too. Can't say they're better quality, just other videos.

Winter flying the RC Waco Bipe (5 min 1 sec)

ghee-grose · Apr 17, 2009, 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by melcrose

Great review! Too bad you can't have a higher quality movie.. 1.76mb? That would be "small" for dial-up!

Avi would be nice as well.

Thanks again for the review!

And good quality pictures would help too!

PerlAddict · Apr 18, 2009, 04:20 PM

Anybody know what size prop this comes with standard? My prop doesn't have the size printed on it.

Wingman26 · Apr 20, 2009, 06:17 PM

Correct url for Waco Classic Aircraft http://www.wacoclassic.com/

PerlAddict · Apr 21, 2009, 05:01 PM

Ugh ... For as much as I love Hobby Lobby on the whole, a complete and utter lack of after sale support on certain products drives me nuts.

I called up Hobby Lobby today because I bought this plane at their sidewalk sale. All the props in the box ended up being busted, and the motor had a very bent (and unreplaceable) shaft and warped bell on it.

So I called Hobby Lobby to find out what size prop it took, and what the ESC was rated at (since the ESC was working, but I didn't want to put a new motor in there and burn it up if the motor pulled a couple too many amps ... we all know how those Chinese parts can be).

The customer service rep (Shawn) couldn't tell me any info on either part. He pretty much looked up exactly what I looked up on the website myself - replacement props with no specs, replacement ESC with no specs. He said if he had to guess, he'd figure the prop at being a 9x7 slow flyer. But who's to know? And if it's too much and burns up the ESC, who's going to be to blame? Me for putting on a prop that's pitched too high.

I don't like being forced to buy spare parts from the rep who doesn't even know what the spare parts are rated for, especially when I already have a stack of other spare parts (small bell motors and dozens and dozens of props) that can readily be put on and have me back and flying in 10 minutes if I just have the information.

I also think it's kind of crappy to read this review, and then find out later down the thread that the reviewer's stock radio he received crapped out and wouldn't work, so he had to substitute his own, yet nowhere in the review was that mentioned. I feel like a reviewer has a responsibility to make others aware of such issues and then detail what the retailer did to correct them, rather than just avoid mentioning it altogether. It's a review, after all, and not an advertisement. Or at least, it should be.

Alright, getting off my soapbox now ... just a tiny bit frustrated overall.

Apr 14, 2009, 09:29 PM	#2
Ranger13 Sam Talley Join Date: May 2003 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 271	CoG Excitement Shared! I, too, had an exciting first tail-heavy flight, but thanks to my extraordinary piloting skills (and an astounding amount of luck) was able to push enough down elevator to get control long enough to trim the airplane and land it. I had to add 2.75 oz. of lead under the fuselage, just behind the cowl to get the CoG right. Luckily, I found a thread on EZone that provided the CoG location. This is a very good looking and well-mannered airplane.

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Introduction

Kit Contents

Assembly

Tail

Wing

Fuselage

Radio Installation

Completion

Flying

Basics

Taking Off and Landing

Aerobatics/Special Flight Performance

Is This For a Beginner?

Flight Video/Photo Gallery

Conclusion

Apr 14, 2009, 10:59 PM	#3
melcrose Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: York, ne Posts: 580	Great review! Too bad you can't have a higher quality movie.. 1.76mb? That would be "small" for dial-up! Avi would be nice as well. Thanks again for the review!

Apr 15, 2009, 06:48 AM	#4
Driggs Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 205	great plane! great review! i too have this with a 480 size motor with 960kv and its a really great performer

Apr 15, 2009, 09:38 AM	#5
PerlAddict Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Murfreesboro, TN Posts: 1,829	I've got one of these on the bench to build right now. The stock motor looks adequate, but a more powerful motor would be nice. I bet that 480 sized motor does really well.

Apr 15, 2009, 12:20 PM	#6
hugocraft Aerobatic Addict Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Louisville, Kentucky Posts: 467	Just wish they would sell this in something like a plug-n-play or reciever ready version.

Apr 15, 2009, 05:05 PM	#7
wahrhaftig Registered User Join Date: Dec 1996 Location: Sebastopol, CA, USA Posts: 392	Hugocraft, I certainly agree with you. I don't understand why they insist on packaging radios with aircraft that are not really meant for beginners and which properly should be bought be people who already probably have radios. Furthermore, the supplied radio did not last long (just wouldn't work - I don't know what was wrong with it) and I substituted one of my JR radios. Being able to fly with some exponential really made a large positive difference. I will confess, too, that I find that the location of the CG not being furnished in the instructions is very annoying. I had to call up and get a figure from HL.

Apr 16, 2009, 07:42 AM	#9
78dave Dr. Dave Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Howard County, MO Posts: 945	Excellent Alan! I love Waco's especially yellow ones.

Apr 18, 2009, 04:20 PM	#13
PerlAddict Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Murfreesboro, TN Posts: 1,829	Anybody know what size prop this comes with standard? My prop doesn't have the size printed on it.

Apr 20, 2009, 06:17 PM	#14
Wingman26 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 231	Correct url for Waco Classic Aircraft http://www.wacoclassic.com/

Apr 21, 2009, 05:01 PM	#15
PerlAddict Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Murfreesboro, TN Posts: 1,829	Ugh ... For as much as I love Hobby Lobby on the whole, a complete and utter lack of after sale support on certain products drives me nuts. I called up Hobby Lobby today because I bought this plane at their sidewalk sale. All the props in the box ended up being busted, and the motor had a very bent (and unreplaceable) shaft and warped bell on it. So I called Hobby Lobby to find out what size prop it took, and what the ESC was rated at (since the ESC was working, but I didn't want to put a new motor in there and burn it up if the motor pulled a couple too many amps ... we all know how those Chinese parts can be). The customer service rep (Shawn) couldn't tell me any info on either part. He pretty much looked up exactly what I looked up on the website myself - replacement props with no specs, replacement ESC with no specs. He said if he had to guess, he'd figure the prop at being a 9x7 slow flyer. But who's to know? And if it's too much and burns up the ESC, who's going to be to blame? Me for putting on a prop that's pitched too high. I don't like being forced to buy spare parts from the rep who doesn't even know what the spare parts are rated for, especially when I already have a stack of other spare parts (small bell motors and dozens and dozens of props) that can readily be put on and have me back and flying in 10 minutes if I just have the information. I also think it's kind of crappy to read this review, and then find out later down the thread that the reviewer's stock radio he received crapped out and wouldn't work, so he had to substitute his own, yet nowhere in the review was that mentioned. I feel like a reviewer has a responsibility to make others aware of such issues and then detail what the retailer did to correct them, rather than just avoid mentioning it altogether. It's a review, after all, and not an advertisement. Or at least, it should be. Alright, getting off my soapbox now ... just a tiny bit frustrated overall.