Diving supportvessel Well Enhancer 1:75 - Page 2

norgale · Nov 12, 2008, 12:38 PM

This is really some build and of a good size too. What I don't understand is all the different materials that are being used.Planks are overlapped and seem to end where they should be continued. How do you smooth all that out for the finished hull? Pete

tweety777 · Nov 12, 2008, 12:45 PM

Hello Pete,

I didn't want to use planks for the entire hull, so i used 3mm thick plywood for the straight pieces of hull.
For as far as i can see now, the hull isn't really very bad.
A bit of grinding before the polyester will do the job.
On this model the construstion of the hull goes a lot better then on my previous model, so i'm happy with it for now.
I hope to be able to start with the polyester this weekend, but my first priority is to build as good as i can.

Greetings Josse

Ghost 2501 · Nov 12, 2008, 12:56 PM

looking good, though it looks like a couple of planks are coming adrift.

I'd be tempted to use blue-core behind the bow planking to help keep the shape in the event of collision, My Nord Icelandia has a layered hull at the bow that has 1cm thick strips that have been planed into shape, her hull planks begin after the point where the hull has gone parallel.

a pic of the inside of Nordie may show what i mean. sadly I can't give you the external pic as the ship is now painted.

bluebell · Nov 12, 2008, 01:31 PM

Here,s one I built some years ago.

tweety777 · Nov 12, 2008, 01:55 PM

Hello guys,

The first part of the hull is closed, and therefore ready for the polyester and such kind of things.

Like it is now in real, also on the picture is ducktape put at the places where the glue isn't yet fully dry.

Thanks for the pics guys!!!!!

Greetings Josse

Ghost 2501 · Nov 12, 2008, 03:21 PM

it appears that you now have something that seems to closely resemble a hull.

I love it when a model gets to that stage!

trawlerlover · Nov 12, 2008, 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tweety777

Like it is now in real, also on the picture is ducktape put at the places where the glue isn't yet fully dry.

What can't duct tape be used for.

Great job on the hull though, it looks like it came together very nicely.

norgale · Nov 12, 2008, 04:41 PM

It is starting to look good but I have to watch the rest of this to see how it comes out. Pete

Ghost 2501 · Nov 12, 2008, 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trawlerlover

What can't duct tape be used for.

Great job on the hull though, it looks like it came together very nicely.

don't tell greenseaships, he'll probably build his next model out of laminated duct tape

tweety777 · Nov 12, 2008, 11:28 PM

Hello Ghost,

Whats the problem of building a model of laminated ductape?
If it's strong enough, i don't see the problem.

O, i'm sorry, shouldn't have sayd that

Greetings Josse

Ghost 2501 · Nov 13, 2008, 06:31 AM

nothing, I have seen a ship that is over 30 years old and has layers of paint over layers of duct tape after repair after repair.

Greenseaships makes his models out of cardboard and fibreglasses them.

norgale · Nov 13, 2008, 08:53 AM

Havn't heard from Greenships latly. Wonder what he's up to? Pete

SilentHunter · Nov 13, 2008, 11:30 AM

Looks like another good candidate for that super hi-tech all-purpose material....

BONDO!!!

Hope you have a good supply there in NL

When in doubt, fill and sand, fill and sand...

tweety777 · Nov 15, 2008, 12:07 PM

Hello guys,

Today i've went to the modelbuildingclub and the members out there discovered that the stern wasn't quite straight.
The best way to fix this was unfortunatly by demolishing the hull, then check if it is straight, and if it is put new plates to clode the hull.
And thats what i'm doing now.
The stern is demolished, and now the side-plates are being put into place.
The side-plates are identical, so that's not going to cause any more problems.
The other pieces of plating will come later.

The massive blocks on the stem are being grinded in shape now, so that i can start with the polyester when the stern is finished.
There still is a small chance that the polyester can be added tomorrow, but that chance is not so big anymore.

Greetings Josse

Ghost 2501 · Nov 15, 2008, 05:57 PM

well if its any conselation, Nord Icelandia's hull has a slight twist to it with the Port side being higher than the Starboard side and it sails ok, just rolls a lot in corners

by how much was it out of true?

Nov 12, 2008, 12:56 PM	#18
Ghost 2501 Xantec Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Stoke on Trent(UK) Posts: 5,857	looking good, though it looks like a couple of planks are coming adrift. I'd be tempted to use blue-core behind the bow planking to help keep the shape in the event of collision, My Nord Icelandia has a layered hull at the bow that has 1cm thick strips that have been planed into shape, her hull planks begin after the point where the hull has gone parallel. a pic of the inside of Nordie may show what i mean. sadly I can't give you the external pic as the ship is now painted. Attached Thumbnails 71.7 KB · Views: 241 Last edited by Ghost 2501; Nov 12, 2008 at 01:09 PM.

Nov 12, 2008, 01:31 PM	#19
bluebell Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: CHESHIRE U/K Posts: 114	Here,s one I built some years ago. Attached Thumbnails 68.9 KB · Views: 103 63.2 KB · Views: 84 56.9 KB · Views: 80 76.2 KB · Views: 70 64.9 KB · Views: 98 50.0 KB · Views: 141 Last edited by bluebell; Nov 12, 2008 at 05:17 PM.

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Nov 12, 2008, 12:38 PM	#16
norgale Retired for now Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 4,096	This is really some build and of a good size too. What I don't understand is all the different materials that are being used.Planks are overlapped and seem to end where they should be continued. How do you smooth all that out for the finished hull? Pete

Nov 12, 2008, 12:45 PM	#17
tweety777 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Vlaardingen, The Netherlands Posts: 656	Hello Pete, I didn't want to use planks for the entire hull, so i used 3mm thick plywood for the straight pieces of hull. For as far as i can see now, the hull isn't really very bad. A bit of grinding before the polyester will do the job. On this model the construstion of the hull goes a lot better then on my previous model, so i'm happy with it for now. I hope to be able to start with the polyester this weekend, but my first priority is to build as good as i can. Greetings Josse

Nov 12, 2008, 01:55 PM	#20
tweety777 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Vlaardingen, The Netherlands Posts: 656	Hello guys, The first part of the hull is closed, and therefore ready for the polyester and such kind of things. Like it is now in real, also on the picture is ducktape put at the places where the glue isn't yet fully dry. Thanks for the pics guys!!!!! Greetings Josse

Nov 12, 2008, 03:21 PM	#21
Ghost 2501 Xantec Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Stoke on Trent(UK) Posts: 5,857	it appears that you now have something that seems to closely resemble a hull. I love it when a model gets to that stage!

Nov 12, 2008, 04:41 PM	#23
norgale Retired for now Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 4,096	It is starting to look good but I have to watch the rest of this to see how it comes out. Pete

Nov 12, 2008, 11:28 PM	#25
tweety777 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Vlaardingen, The Netherlands Posts: 656	Hello Ghost, Whats the problem of building a model of laminated ductape? If it's strong enough, i don't see the problem. O, i'm sorry, shouldn't have sayd that Greetings Josse

Nov 13, 2008, 06:31 AM	#26
Ghost 2501 Xantec Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Stoke on Trent(UK) Posts: 5,857	nothing, I have seen a ship that is over 30 years old and has layers of paint over layers of duct tape after repair after repair. Greenseaships makes his models out of cardboard and fibreglasses them.

Nov 13, 2008, 08:53 AM	#27
norgale Retired for now Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 4,096	Havn't heard from Greenships latly. Wonder what he's up to? Pete

Nov 13, 2008, 11:30 AM	#28
SilentHunter under construction Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Green valley AZ Posts: 998	Looks like another good candidate for that super hi-tech all-purpose material.... BONDO!!! Hope you have a good supply there in NL When in doubt, fill and sand, fill and sand...

Nov 15, 2008, 12:07 PM	#29
tweety777 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Vlaardingen, The Netherlands Posts: 656	Hello guys, Today i've went to the modelbuildingclub and the members out there discovered that the stern wasn't quite straight. The best way to fix this was unfortunatly by demolishing the hull, then check if it is straight, and if it is put new plates to clode the hull. And thats what i'm doing now. The stern is demolished, and now the side-plates are being put into place. The side-plates are identical, so that's not going to cause any more problems. The other pieces of plating will come later. The massive blocks on the stem are being grinded in shape now, so that i can start with the polyester when the stern is finished. There still is a small chance that the polyester can be added tomorrow, but that chance is not so big anymore. Greetings Josse

Nov 15, 2008, 05:57 PM	#30
Ghost 2501 Xantec Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Stoke on Trent(UK) Posts: 5,857	well if its any conselation, Nord Icelandia's hull has a slight twist to it with the Port side being higher than the Starboard side and it sails ok, just rolls a lot in corners by how much was it out of true?