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Old Nov 13, 2008, 04:01 PM
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I have had people think they were seeing a real bird with this silly thing I built years ago.

The Q-Eagle was flying rudder elevator only... No ailerons.

I think the rudder was the wrong shape. It needed to be a symmetrical shape like the full bird tail just sideways and vertical centered on the body to help fool the eye.

The wing is too square but you have to realize it was only feathers added to the plane at the bottom. I could do a better job with the shape of the wing.

I liked this plane so well I still have it and fly it occasionally. It is fun to fly and is different enough that it is a good concept plane.

Q-Eagle Concept RC Plane (3 min 16 sec)


RC Q- Eagle flying at Squaw Peak Lookout (4 min 12 sec)


Q Trainer at Squaw Peak and Park (4 min 59 sec)
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Old Nov 13, 2008, 04:19 PM
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I really like the way your bird flies! tho the wing looks beyond my cutting abilities. I'd be interested in a wing/body kit!

Here's a few pics of my fan fold--epp eagle clone, patterns sent to me by a RCG member. There's a 1/4X3/8 spruce spar under the first layer, and I put some dihedral in it. Esskay 400xt powered, here's a short vid in a small area. It's more fun out in the open.

http://media.putfile.com/Fanfold-EPP-Eagle-clone

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Old Nov 13, 2008, 06:50 PM
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I really like the way your bird flies! tho the wing looks beyond my cutting abilities. I'd be interested in a wing/body kit!

Here's a few pics of my fan fold--epp eagle clone, patterns sent to me by a RCG member. There's a 1/4X3/8 spruce spar under the first layer, and I put some dihedral in it. Esskay 400xt powered, here's a short vid in a small area. It's more fun out in the open.

http://media.putfile.com/Fanfold-EPP-Eagle-clone

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Looks good. Can you link us to the plans and I will add them to the list. How much does it weigh?

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Old Nov 13, 2008, 08:25 PM
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Lee, I lent to another RCG member, when I get them back I can trace them out.

It weighs about 20oz flying.

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Old Nov 13, 2008, 09:36 PM
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Lee, I lent to another RCG member, when I get them back I can trace them out.

It weighs about 20oz flying.

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I'm trying to get plans for planes for anyone watching the thread. Have the plans been published anywhere?

I have learned that the planes that can be cut with an exacto knife are the planes that have the biggest following mainly because anyone can cut them and they don't take much equipment or investment. This version of the Eagle may be very popular.

The wings with an airfoil are too complex for most people to cut. Hot wire cutting has a learning curve to get good cuts.
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Old Nov 13, 2008, 09:53 PM
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No Lee, they were traced and sent to me by another member. It was his idea to use a KF style 3 step wing foil, I just copied his work. The wing is quite strong with the 3 layers and spar, I peeled the whole thing and sealed it with waterbased minwax poly before painting.

There are some wing construction pics on my blog

I'll get them back, they are in Chicago now, I'm in NH.

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Old Nov 13, 2008, 10:07 PM
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Praymond,

I'd like to see them as well. I think I could set the plans up to be cut by the PhlatPrinter with a little effort. In any case, I'd like a chance to try and build it even if I have to cut it out by hand. ( Shudders ) I like both yours and Lee's. I hope to see plans for both.

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Old Nov 14, 2008, 07:17 AM
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sketch conversion

Praymond, Cptdragn
I can easily convert the sketches to dwg, dxf, pdf, or tiff. I just need to scan them in on my plotter. It will scan 36" wide by however long. Just thought I would offer my services up as i think there are going to be a lot of people interested in this one.
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Old Nov 14, 2008, 07:36 AM
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Lee, My Fik Q plane is flying really well....so next on the list could be a Fik Eagle!
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Old Nov 14, 2008, 07:47 AM
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Lee, My Fik Q plane is flying really well....so next on the list could be a Fik Eagle!
I remember you were frustrated with the Q-Wing at first. I'm glad to see that you got the plane figured out. I like flying the Q-Planes.

Draw up plans and we will post them here.

Lee

Take a look.

http://www.rcmmagazine.com/store/sto...Ez5H4gVOQ9l751

http://www.rcmmagazine.com/store/sto...Ez5H4gVOQ5m4M1

http://benglish.net/project_pages/cu...ts/rc_hawk.htm
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No Lee, they were traced and sent to me by another member. It was his idea to use a KF style 3 step wing foil, I just copied his work. The wing is quite strong with the 3 layers and spar, I peeled the whole thing and sealed it with waterbased minwax poly before painting.

There are some wing construction pics on my blog

I'll get them back, they are in Chicago now, I'm in NH.

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I'm in Chicago,... pass the plans to me and I'll draw up plans and post PDFs.
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Not completely birds.

Been lurking on this and similar threads for a while. Tried a couple elevon style in the past and had the trimming problems. I'm working on something similar to these (see site below), but adding an elevator. Looking for a little keep in the car fly wherever kinda plane that will take considerable wind. Plan on using tiny outrunner and 6in prop, maybe 30in or less wing to keep it small.

http://www.dream-flight.com/

P.S. Keep up the good work LEE. I'll keep my eye on ya.
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Old Nov 14, 2008, 05:27 PM
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I flew soaring wings back when it was unpopular to fly flying wings. I've had several designs that were similar to the ALULA and I have seen the ALULA fly. I am too lazy to fly hand launch and fly gliders without a slope. I flew slope for years because we have some world class hills within 20 miles of my house.

(I still need to go fly the EPP Peregrine there)

I'm updating the post #3 bird plane list. Keep the links coming.


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Old Nov 17, 2008, 09:38 AM
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Regarding plans for the FFF/EPP Eagle: I'll be getting a copy of Praymond's plans that I will redraw in Illustrator as vector art, so it can be easily scaled up or down to suit anyone's needs. It looks to me like the wing is a KFm3... should make a nice slow glider for long duration flights.

In a side-note, there happens to be a mated pair of red-tail hawks living in a tree at the edge of my local local city-park... every time I maiden a new plane they come to "investigate"... they've chased my little R3C-1 biplane all over, just stopping short of snatching it out of the sky. This one ought to really ruffle their feathers...
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I have the plans... will illustrate immediately, if not sooner.
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