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Old Jun 25, 2001, 05:27 PM
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What would be a good thermal glider for a beginner?

I have a gp spirit. It feels like a tank and I had to add about 2.5 oz. to the nose just to get it to balance. I have flown it and am not that impressed with the performance. My whindstar ep has alot more control authority. Do I have this ship too tail heavy. It is just 7mm behind the cg in the instruction book. Chris
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Old Jun 25, 2001, 06:32 PM
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Do you like building? The Bird of Time is reported to be about the best kit out there. Otherwise, there are a lot of ARF's out there - the Filip from Hobby Lobby gets lots of attention..
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Old Jun 25, 2001, 06:57 PM
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My Spirit was a pretty nice flying airplane. It was plenty responsive for a R/E ship and had a wide c.g. range. I’d recheck your set-up before moving on to a new plane.

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Old Jun 25, 2001, 07:50 PM
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You want to change the wing? Get a hold of a Gentle/Sophisticated Lady wing and strap it on. My Spirit was good, stock, for windy conditions but became a real floater with the SL wing. Same CG, just changed the wing.

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Old Jun 26, 2001, 07:03 PM
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What about a wing from a windstar from Thunder Tiger? I already have one of those.
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Old Jun 26, 2001, 07:04 PM
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[Did you have to add alot of weight to the nose? to Fok thanks chris
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Old Jun 26, 2001, 07:09 PM
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Thanks for all the help I do belive I should join a glider club, there is just so much to learn. How do you guys manage to fly with kids and work. Thats why I am really interested in thermal gliding. I can escape to the school yard with my plane DLG or High start and have fun. I just can't seem to get that first thermal under my belt.
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Old Jun 26, 2001, 09:29 PM
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for a rank beginner get yourself a bowman's javiln, and mad aircraft highlander, a dave's handlaunch glider, a trick floater. do your self a favor and go epp for the first plane.
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Old Jun 27, 2001, 12:38 AM
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Yup, I had a pretty big chunk of lead in the nose. I don't know the weight, but it was about 1"x1"x0.3".

You might try dropping the nose and flying it a little faster. As Ray alluded, it's not a real floater like a Gentle Lady.

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Old Jun 27, 2001, 04:36 AM
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You must be doing something wrong, a Spirit is a very very good plane. Iīve had one and it was the best termal hunter Iīve ever had. I made a second fuse with an e-motor and it became a Spectra, and it still could beat all other 2m planes in our club.
Youīll have to move the CG up front were the instruction says and fly it a little faster, and youīll get more control. If you just hang up there, itīll come down, you have to fly it, and when you do that itīll stay up for ever. My record is allmost 2 hours. Donīt worry about the extra weight, in the e-version (spectra) I used 8 1700Mah cells, ESC, and a geared speed 600, so an oz. more or less doesnīt matter, but get the CG were it has to be.
Go fore the Spirit itīs a Great Plane

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Old Jun 27, 2001, 06:38 PM
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Thanks for the replies on the spirit. I am experienced pilot,just not good at thermal hunting. I suspect that my plane has to be tail heavy,even though it is within the directions inteded balance point. My thunder tiger ep has alot more authority so I will move the cg forward on the spirit and see how it goes.
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Old Jun 28, 2001, 12:34 AM
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Your Spirit should be a good flier.. but if it gives you problems, the Gentle Lady might be a good choice to get a better feel for the way things are supposed to fly.
The Spirit will outperform the GL, so maybe you just need to fly it more, possibly with some assistance from an -experienced- glider flier.
And it makes a good e-plane! I put the motor and things in my Spirit, and it is a super thermaller..
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