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Old Oct 08, 2008, 04:47 AM
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I think its more to do with improvements gained with experience from the manufacture of the Dg1000 and ASW28 and the Salto which has lead to the improvement of the manufacture of this kits ,owning all of the previous models and being present on the assembly of this Condor has shown clear evidence of improvements made in the manfacturing process.
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Old Oct 08, 2008, 05:17 AM
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I think its more to do with improvements gained with experience from the manufacture of the Dg1000 and ASW28 and the Salto which has lead to the improvement of the manufacture of this kits ,owning all of the previous models and being present on the assembly of this Condor has shown clear evidence of improvements made in the manfacturing process.
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So the fact that this design has been around for many years has no impact on the product as it is presented now? What about all the experienced gained in how the particular design copes over time and use?
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Old Oct 08, 2008, 12:46 PM
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If you read what I wrote you would clearly see I was talking about FLY-FLY's manufacturing techniques .
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Old Oct 09, 2008, 12:45 AM
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I love the looks of this beauty and have read the ASW28 thread so I am very curious about how this one flies???

I am working on my Christmas wish list.
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Old Oct 09, 2008, 12:56 AM
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As soon as I get a day with the right wind, she will be away. I will also post a video.
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Old Oct 11, 2008, 03:21 AM
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Well Friday was the day.

The Condor is a gentle giant, CG is about right from the plan. She went straight out with only some down trim required, wind strenght was about 20kts, she carved holes in the sky, rolls are actual, loops nice kept big, inverted good as well for E205. Rudder works well for stall turns, I was running 70% aileron/rudder mix.

Flaps work well at 70 deg with a fair bit of down elevator offset, you can fly full circuits with full flap deployed.

Landing was a breeze in the second attempt, with full flap she stopped 300mm above the hill into the wind and settled down nice.

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I will get some video soon, the test flight day everyone was working.
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Old Oct 14, 2008, 06:38 AM
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Pope- Thank you so much for the flight report. From your report I am getting the idea she would be a good aero-tow plane. When looking it a pic posted in this thread I figured she would turn pretty well and have some decent lift. That wing is nice and beefy near the root, deffinitely a lower aspect ratio than some of the scale ships.

Looking forward to some video !!!
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Old Oct 14, 2008, 03:51 PM
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The Condor Magic Evo 4 (with flaps) has just got back in stock in Germany: http://www.modellhobby-shop.de/Model...=130&c=39&p=39.

No idea if this is exactly the same model as the fly-fly, but probably is?
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Old Oct 15, 2008, 12:02 AM
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looks to be the same for sure.

I now have some video, all I have to do is sort it out, as the person that filmed it took 25 bits instead of 1 long video, should be ok but will take longer to put together.
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Old Oct 15, 2008, 04:28 AM
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Descriptions sounded like a Flyfly Condor..build up sheeted wings...
I thought the original was foam obechi..
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Old Oct 15, 2008, 09:03 AM
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Opinion please? I currently fly my FlyFly ASW-28, with electric motor, as a flat land flyer/thermal seeker. I can catch medium to strong thermals with the ASW-28. Would the Condor be a good next plane for me? I would motorize it and use it the same way I use the ASW-28. Where can I get one in the US?

Unfortunately slopes are not an option here but I love scale sailplanes...or should I expand to include semi-scale
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Old Oct 15, 2008, 01:19 PM
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The Condor would have better thermal ability than the 28 IMHO simply because of the wing loading and the fact that its a good old E205 section I like the look of the Condor as a semi scale model and was pushing for its release agggggggeeeeessss ago with Albert .Trouble was it took so long i spent my dollars on 2 other aircraft at the time and the Boss told me thats it till next year (aviation budget spent for 08 lol)
the the manufacturer as far as i can see has really improved there techniques and its a far better layup than the earlier 28's Dg1000's and the Salto . Unfortunately it would be harder to get from Albert due to EMS changing the size policy .But it still a nice machine looking forward to Dave's Video.
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Old Oct 15, 2008, 08:02 PM
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I wish I could find one that I could order. I see they even make an electric ready model. It appears to be a perfect match for my flying styles....keep your eyes peeled for one in the US for me! Thanks.
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Old Oct 17, 2008, 06:17 PM
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have a talk with ricky at www.flyflyhobbies.com and see what he can do for you.
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Old Oct 17, 2008, 06:19 PM
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wrong address www.flyflyhobby.com sorry
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