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Old Mar 22, 2012, 02:30 PM
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As to the ICE logging....if you have the sampling rate too high, it "may" cause "knocking" sounds in the motor. What is happening, is the the processor in the ESC is becoming overloaded trying to not only run the motor, but also do the logging, so, it will literally "stop" the motor momentarily (a very small fraction of a second), but this is the "knocking" sound that is heard.
You may or may not hear this, but if you do, turn the sampling rate down on the ESC. This is a known issue with using the logging in the ICE ESCs....
I just thought you might like to know this if you happen to run into it while testing, or eventually flying.

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Old Mar 22, 2012, 02:36 PM
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Nope,

The only CC I owner up until a few weeks ago was my ICE HV 160 on the Emmaselle. The CC 80 ESC was something I got to see if it worked as good as my 160 since its starts so smooth.

Electrics are cool as last night I set up one of my switches on my radio to set my throttle at 5%. That way when I flip the switch the motor is a idle. So when I go to fly it will look more real and not have the props stop every time I run my stick all the way down.

DAG
Yes they are!! A Lot of guys that fly 3D use this same method so that they prop never stops on very slow maneuvers... Just be very careful that you always turn that switch off after a flight, and also make sure it doesn't get bumped before a flight. We wouldn't want you to get wacked by a prop spinning up when you plug a pack in (though it "shouldn't" happen due to the fail-safe settings, as the ESC "shouldn't" arm")
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Old Mar 22, 2012, 03:43 PM
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On a model where there no concern of getting ?Electric power and hydraulic pressure up, It should make little difference in which order one starts the engines(motors). On the real thing the sequence was 4,3,2,5,6,1. Then taxi out and at runup pad at the runway end , start jets 1,2,3,4.
Engines 3 & 4 had hydraulic and electric pressure and electric generators (altornators actually) engines 2 & 5 Had Electric and hydraulic while 1 and 6 only had Altornators--- no hydraulic pumps.
That is the sequence I remember on the "D" models.

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Old Mar 22, 2012, 04:31 PM
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Electrics are cool as last night I set up one of my switches on my radio to set my throttle at 5%. That way when I flip the switch the motor is a idle. So when I go to fly it will look more real and not have the props stop every time I run my stick all the way down.
That's also handy for electrics with sound systems. I did the same (a switch on to have the motor still running at idle speed with the stick all the way down) on my DVII because it was pretty fake coming in for a landing and going to zero throttle and have the motor sound shout off, then restart again when I brought the throttle back up
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Old Mar 22, 2012, 08:01 PM
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Ok,

So I am ADHD, and dyslectic.

I have the Mossi 100% designed, the C130 about 80%+, the T-28 about 80-90%, and the A7 about 50%. And yes the 68% Pitts S-1 is about 85%. I have gotten a ton done this week on the B36. Most that new landing gear parts are figured out to beef up the lateral loads, the wing had a huge set back as I re-did the air-intakes on my left wing, right wing is good to go. The testing of the new Castle ESC is done and I just need to cook the video and get it posted.

But here is just something to think about. When I was learning CAD I messed with P-47 design and was just playing around. A buddy kind of ran with it for a bit then abandoned it. While traveling I played with the dimension in compufoil and ran some basic math on how big it could be with an A200 and be under 75 pounds. Crazy thing is it would be about 6" bigger in span than the Emmaselle. So it would be about 73 poundsish... 198" span, and a power loading of about 133 watts a pound.

Just food for thought.......

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Old Mar 22, 2012, 08:08 PM
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Just food for thought.......

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So many planes, so little time.
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Old Mar 22, 2012, 08:43 PM
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Just food for thought.......

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So many planes, so little time.[/QUOTE]
YUP after following Dag's build here.
~The B-36 is another one that has been added to the WOW would that be cool; ~It's making it's way into the I'd like to do one.
~As of yet it hasn't quite made it into the I'm going to do one for sure some day.

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Old Mar 23, 2012, 09:58 AM
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That To-Do list is getting long, hopefully you don't mash them together in your mind into one gigantic hybrid.
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Old Mar 23, 2012, 10:04 AM
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That To-Do list is getting long, hopefully you don't mash them together in your mind into one gigantic hybrid.
LOL,

I learned a long time ago not to be building more than 1 project at a time.... Or none will get done. It would be crazy to see what a MOSSIB36.P47/C130-A7/T28.PS-1 would look like.

LOL.... Rock ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Old Mar 23, 2012, 11:14 AM
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When I was learning CAD I messed with P-47 design and was just playing around. ..........Crazy thing is it would be about 6" bigger in span than the Emmaselle. So it would be about 73 poundsish... 198" span, and a power loading of about 133 watts a pound.

Just food for thought.......

DAG

...and the crowd starts chanting "JUG, JUG, JUG...."
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Dag if you want some pics of a pits, the place where they build them is withing 100 miles of me (a hop skip and a jump in rural Idaho/Wyoming), and I can get some next time we go that way.
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Old Mar 24, 2012, 04:22 PM
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Looking good Dag.... I know you were a bit frustrated with the inlets, so, good to see some progress...

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Old Mar 24, 2012, 05:41 PM
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Well.......

I think I finally got her close...... I hate doing things twice, but three times would kill any other guy.....

Looks like we are moving again.....

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