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Old Dec 16, 2010, 08:47 PM
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Dag,
You need to come up with an "Atwood Aviation" logo and put it on your Humvee or both of them and your trailer!
Get a graphic made of a B36 and put it on the sides of your trailer!
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Old Dec 16, 2010, 08:53 PM
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Imagine the gas bill on a real B36 !
Snipped from Wiki (just the "turning", not even factoring in the "burning"!)

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The Pratt & Whitney R-4360 was used in the Convair B-36, Boeing B-50 and C-97/Model 377.

...at rated power is about 400gal/hr, or about 6-1/2 gallons per minute...

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Jack
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Old Dec 16, 2010, 09:03 PM
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The Pratt & Whitney R-4360 was used in the Convair B-36, Boeing B-50 and C-97/Model 377.
Saw one of those at the Naval Museum at Pensacola, what an amazing piece of engineering...
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Old Dec 16, 2010, 09:26 PM
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Snipped from Wiki (just the "turning", not even factoring in the "burning"!)

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The Pratt & Whitney R-4360 was used in the Convair B-36, Boeing B-50 and C-97/Model 377.

...at rated power is about 400gal/hr, or about 6-1/2 gallons per minute...

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Jack
Some cool info:

Type: 28-cylinder supercharged air-cooled four-row radial engine
Bore: 5.75 in. (146.05 mm)
Stroke: 6.00 in. (152.4 mm)
Displacement: 4,362.5 in³ (71.49 L)
Length: 96.5 in. (2 451 mm)
Diameter: 55 in (1397 mm)
Dry weight: 3,870 lb (1,755 kg)
Components
Valvetrain: Poppet, two valves per cylinder
Supercharger: Gear-driven single stage variable speed centrifugal type supercharger
Turbocharger: General Electric CHM-2
Fuel system: Stromberg four-barrel pressure carburetor
Fuel type: 108/135 octane gasoline
Cooling system: Air-cooled
Performance
Power output: 4,300 hp (3,210 kW)
Specific power: 0.99 hp/in³ (44.9 kW/L)
Compression ratio: 6.7 : 1
Power-to-weight ratio: 1.11 hp/lb (1.83 kW/kg)


Planes used in:
Aero Spacelines Mini Guppy
Aero Spacelines Pregnant Guppy
Boeing 377 Stratocruiser
Boeing B-50 Superfortress
Boeing C-97 Stratofreighter
Boeing XF8B
Boeing XB-44 Superfortress
Convair B-36
Convair XC-99
Curtiss XBTC
Douglas C-74 Globemaster
Douglas C-124 Globemaster II
Douglas TB2D Skypirate
Fairchild C-119 Flying Boxcar
Fairchild C-120 Packplane
Goodyear F2G Corsair
Hughes H-4 Hercules ("Spruce Goose")
Hughes XF-11
Lockheed R6V Constitution
Martin AM Mauler
Martin JRM Mars
Martin P4M Mercator
Northrop B-35
Republic XP-72
Republic XF-12 Rainbow
SNCASE SE-2010 Armagnac
Vultee A-41


Rock On! DAG
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Old Dec 16, 2010, 09:57 PM
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Dag,
The museum I wanted to take you through the day you and your son were here, has the spare engine to the Howard Hughes Flying boat on a huge steel dolly
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Old Dec 16, 2010, 10:00 PM
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Doing the right math, here in Brazil we pay R$2,70 per liter of gasoline.

Well, US$ 1.00 = R$ 1.70 ( the dollar is actually "cheap" a couple years ago the currency was US$ 1.00 = R$2.90) and 1 US Gallon = 3.8 liters.

We actually pay US$ 6.035 per gallon here. Talking about avgas, they costs R$4.70 per litre wich gave us US$10.505 per gallon.

The national minimum wage over here is R$550.00. A medium class family (4 people) makes R$2500.00 - R$3000.00 per month.

Sad but true.
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Old Dec 16, 2010, 10:14 PM
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You back home yet Dag?
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Old Dec 16, 2010, 10:16 PM
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I ran the numbers for the UK a few days ago, it's was almost $8 US Gal there.

Gotta love it.

Those engines are just awesome. I'd love to have one in the garage. No idea what I would do with it, but it would be fun to have.

It's amazing what humans have been able to design over the years, even with the most basic tools, just by being a little creative.
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Old Dec 16, 2010, 10:21 PM
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Hi Sneasle,
I was just taking a quick look at your blog and see you are from the Asheville area
There's some interesting aviation history from your area.

Joe Rosbert of the Flying Tigers lived there, I don't even know if he is still alive and Bob Morgan who flew the "Memphis Belle" was from that area
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Old Dec 16, 2010, 10:27 PM
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When you look at how fast aviation developed from the Wright brothers flyer to where we are at 107 years later. We have flown to the moon, sent a spaccraft far outside the solar system ( Voyager) it's just amazing.
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Old Dec 16, 2010, 10:55 PM
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Got a chance to talk to the owner of FIFI (a B-29, before he donated it to the confederate air force (or whatever they call it now), he claimed it was the only superfortress with a ladies powder room in the tail turret. He used to basically fly into close airshows (this was NAS Alameda, a day after San Francisco) for the cost of the gas and oil) When I asked what that had cost the Navy he said that just to fire all four P&W's took over 100 gallons of AvGas and 12 gallons of oil just to warm them up.
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Old Dec 16, 2010, 11:26 PM
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Got a chance to talk to the owner of FIFI (a B-29, before he donated it to the confederate air force (or whatever they call it now), he claimed it was the only superfortress with a ladies powder room in the tail turret. He used to basically fly into close airshows (this was NAS Alameda, a day after San Francisco) for the cost of the gas and oil) When I asked what that had cost the Navy he said that just to fire all four P&W's took over 100 gallons of AvGas and 12 gallons of oil just to warm them up.
Foo
I wasn't aware Ed. I'm not much of a history buff when it comes to aviation, just love the feeling of flying. Although I do that a 'thing' for Golden Era style planes, I haven't allowed myself to get too well read on the subject.

There are a lot of interesting pilots in the area, couple of T-6's owned by pilots in the state, I think there is even a P-51 here somewhere. At least, it shows up at Greg's place every year (Greg Koontz, google him, opens his strip up to all his buddies every October, great fun)

I miss the yearly airshow that used to happen out at the Anniston airport. Since the Army Depo was out there they built the runways at that airport oversized, I've seen stuff as small as Cessnas up to full size airliners and C5's land on that strip. Even had a B2 one year, I think it happened the year they were officially 'revealed', but I'm not sure. I don't remember which one it was, I do remember it was freaking awesome though.

One of these days I will figure out a way to talk someone into taking me for a ride in an F-16. Or any of the other F series, I'm not picky. Once that happens I can die happy.
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Old Dec 17, 2010, 12:27 AM
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Hi Damian, I just read in the October/November issue of RC Jet International magazine that Colin Strauss in UK is building a 1/10 scale B36, with 6 electric props plus 4 EDFs. The article is about the "Ficon Project" and he plans to carry a modified EDF F84E under the wing of the B36 and launch it mid-air (he has no plans to retrieve it in mid-air as was done full-scale though LOL).

Isn't yours the same scale? (but I wouldn't even begin to assume anything else could surpass your example)
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Old Dec 17, 2010, 03:07 AM
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Wow all.....

I just realized something, gas is over 3 bucks a gallon.

Oh.... and this thread past the 1 million views mark. I guess people thinks there is something to see here.

DAG
Here in California, gas under $3 a gal is a far off fantasy.

1 million views does not surprise me at all... You've got a great project going.
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Old Dec 17, 2010, 05:56 AM
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Here in California, gas under $3 a gal is a far off fantasy.

And we get it for a cheap price of 1,56 a litre in here Darn you guys got it bad over there

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