AMA Member? Please Raise Your Hand Poll - Page 4

GunnyGlow · Sep 30, 2008, 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fhhuber506771

Actually.. the "Founding Fathers" of the US designed the system to require people to have some semblence of success in order to be able to vote.

Reading tests before voting were originally designed to prove that the potential voter was capable of reading about who or what they were voting for.
The tests got abused in the south (primarilly by Democrats) in attempts to prevent blacks from voting... and thus the successful challenge to the practice of having the test)

Poll taxes were designed to inhibit people from oting if they didn't have the financial ability to support themselves. (if you're too stupid to be able to support yourself you're too stupid to vote)
Again, this was abused (primarilly by southern Democrats) to try to keep blacks from voting, leading to the successful challenge of the practice.

The system was DESIGNED to keep the uneducated poor from voting, because its easy to "buy" the poor uneducated people's votes by promising them freebies (welfare for example...)

Shortly after the Constitution was ratified and George Washington was elected as our first President it was predicted that the new system would work... until the masses figured out that they could vote themselves free money.

Well.. now the primary issues that politicians tend to run on amount to... free money to the poor and "working poor"... and we have an ever increasing national debt and an increasingly socialist system. (exactly what the Founding Fathers warned we should work to avoid...)

Interesting.....

grumman5277 · Sep 30, 2008, 12:53 AM

I agree 100%,when used in the context of why and when. Today we tend to claim we are a civilized country. Using the same logic one would also believe people with money are always wanting more and are just as easily bought. Greed runs and is ruining capitalism and Democracy. It is and will be the only downfall of this country.

The problem I have with those claims like that would be the fact that common sense isn't reserved only to those who can afford it. Theres only those who believe so.
I guess if you were correct in that Parris Hilton should be able to vote before any of us.

Jeremy

fhhuber506771 · Sep 30, 2008, 01:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grumman5277

I agree 100%,when used in the context of why and when. Today we tend to claim we are a civilized country. Using the same logic one would also believe people with money are always wanting more and are just as easily bought. Greed runs and is ruining capitalism and Democracy. It is and will be the only downfall of this country.

The problem I have with those claims like that would be the fact that common sense isn't reserved only to those who can afford it. Theres only those who believe so.
I guess if you were correct in that Parris Hilton should be able to vote before any of us.

Jeremy

Paris Hilton can read?

Actually... look at the rebuttal commercial she made when McCain flashed her picture trying to put down Obama...

She came across as smarter than either Obama or McCain.
(Not all that hard... especially after watching the first debate)

TheNightowl · Sep 30, 2008, 07:41 PM

Uh... gee. I saw the poll, voted yes, because I am an AMA member, read the original question and realized it was probably wrong for me to vote so because I don't actually visit this forum very often. Popped over here to the last page to find this off-topic conversation about the political candidates. As I already have a forum I argue politics in, I believe i'll just excuse m'self, gentleman. Ya'll enjoy yourselves.
Nightowl

Murocflyer · Sep 30, 2008, 07:44 PM

No doubt. I'm not sure how topics get so far astray so quickly. How many posts did this one stay on topic before it wondered off? I think this one lasted 4 posts.

Frank

Murocflyer · Oct 13, 2008, 07:14 PM

Thanks for voting and sharing your comments. I did expect a few more votes based on the number of AMA members here on RCG, but I certainly understand why folks would not visit this forum.

Frank

SabreHawk · Oct 13, 2008, 07:40 PM

Ahhh sorry Frank, I just now saw this and voted. Yeppers, I be AMA.

Well I must admit I dont venture down here this far much, and dont have any issues to rant on as im a happy camper so I dont visit often this section of the forums.

Murocflyer · Nov 02, 2008, 05:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SabreHawk

Ahhh sorry Frank, I just now saw this and voted. Yeppers, I be AMA.

Well I must admit I dont venture down here this far much, and dont have any issues to rant on as im a happy camper so I dont visit often this section of the forums.

It's all good. I just wanted to see how many AMA members actually visit this forum. Thanks for voting.

You do bring up a very good point though. Typically folks won't visit this forum if they don't have any problems or issues to discuss (or rant about as we noticed). Very good point. I hadn't thought about that.

Frank

Conehead · Nov 28, 2008, 07:38 AM

I voted yes. While I don't fly at the AMA headquarters, I do fly other places and AMA is needed to fly there. I also fly at full scale airports that are designated as model plane sites by the FAA. We have to have AMA to fly there.

I did visit the AMA headquaters. Wow, I just love the site.

Issues with AMA, well for me none, interesting poll. I usually visit threads higher up on the list, so with no real rants or other items, there is not much else.
Conehead
Orrin Eldred
Honor, MI.

Don@HomeHobbies · Nov 29, 2008, 09:28 AM

I have been a member for 45+ years, and I think there is some limited effect on elections, however not enough to "sway" the results, so I guess you can count me as a "No" vote.

I do TOTALLY agree that there is too much negativity on these forums, that tend to turn away contributions from a lot of members. A lot of members I know read but do not post. I have gotten many emails from members/non-members/future members wishing to ask questions OFF the forum to avoid the personal attacks and negativity.

Don

Chestum · Nov 30, 2008, 11:20 AM

AMA member 2 years now

SA716 · Nov 30, 2008, 11:47 AM

AMA since 1979 and a couple of years in the 60s

Balsa Bandit · Dec 05, 2008, 05:38 AM

Frank,

Yes, I'm a member, and have been for longer than most here have been alive. I have been trying without success to be able to post here, but every time I do, there is a self appointed, "Hall Monitor" who has me banned. this will probably happen again after this post. See you in the, "Real Forum."

Bill, AMA 4720

Hossfly · Dec 05, 2008, 12:01 PM

Hey, Bill, that makes two of us. Both old AMAers and both get banned almost every post.

I think that means we have them surrounded.

Old AMA L-93

Murocflyer · Dec 24, 2008, 02:58 PM

127 members. I guess that's not a bad showing here on RCG.

Frank

View Poll Results: Are you an AMA Member visiting this forum?
Yes, I Am An AMA Member	204	87.55%
No, I Am Not An AMA Member	29	12.45%
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Dec 05, 2008, 05:38 AM	#58
Balsa Bandit Permanently Banned Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Leesburg Florida USA Posts: 9	Am I an AMA member? Frank, Yes, I'm a member, and have been for longer than most here have been alive. I have been trying without success to be able to post here, but every time I do, there is a self appointed, "Hall Monitor" who has me banned. this will probably happen again after this post. See you in the, "Real Forum." Bill, AMA 4720

Dec 05, 2008, 12:01 PM	#59
Hossfly Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: New Caney TX. Posts: 343	Ha! Hey, Bill, that makes two of us. Both old AMAers and both get banned almost every post. I think that means we have them surrounded. Old AMA L-93

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Sep 30, 2008, 12:53 AM	#47
grumman5277 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Troy ,OH Posts: 1,439	I agree 100%,when used in the context of why and when. Today we tend to claim we are a civilized country. Using the same logic one would also believe people with money are always wanting more and are just as easily bought. Greed runs and is ruining capitalism and Democracy. It is and will be the only downfall of this country. The problem I have with those claims like that would be the fact that common sense isn't reserved only to those who can afford it. Theres only those who believe so. I guess if you were correct in that Parris Hilton should be able to vote before any of us. Jeremy

Sep 30, 2008, 07:41 PM	#49
TheNightowl Torn 'twixt buildin' and flyin Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Longton, KS Posts: 1,697	Uh... gee. I saw the poll, voted yes, because I am an AMA member, read the original question and realized it was probably wrong for me to vote so because I don't actually visit this forum very often. Popped over here to the last page to find this off-topic conversation about the political candidates. As I already have a forum I argue politics in, I believe i'll just excuse m'self, gentleman. Ya'll enjoy yourselves. Nightowl

Sep 30, 2008, 07:44 PM	#50
Murocflyer Our Goal:To Promote the Hobby Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: East Virginia Posts: 16,920	No doubt. I'm not sure how topics get so far astray so quickly. How many posts did this one stay on topic before it wondered off? I think this one lasted 4 posts. Frank

Oct 13, 2008, 07:14 PM	#51
Murocflyer Our Goal:To Promote the Hobby Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: East Virginia Posts: 16,920	Thanks for voting and sharing your comments. I did expect a few more votes based on the number of AMA members here on RCG, but I certainly understand why folks would not visit this forum. Frank

Oct 13, 2008, 07:40 PM	#52
SabreHawk Off we go............. Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Seattle, WA. USA Posts: 2,222	Ahhh sorry Frank, I just now saw this and voted. Yeppers, I be AMA. Well I must admit I dont venture down here this far much, and dont have any issues to rant on as im a happy camper so I dont visit often this section of the forums.

Nov 28, 2008, 07:38 AM	#54
Conehead Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Honor MI Posts: 1,365	I voted yes. While I don't fly at the AMA headquarters, I do fly other places and AMA is needed to fly there. I also fly at full scale airports that are designated as model plane sites by the FAA. We have to have AMA to fly there. I did visit the AMA headquaters. Wow, I just love the site. Issues with AMA, well for me none, interesting poll. I usually visit threads higher up on the list, so with no real rants or other items, there is not much else. Conehead Orrin Eldred Honor, MI.

Nov 29, 2008, 09:28 AM	#55
Don@HomeHobbies Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 182	I have been a member for 45+ years, and I think there is some limited effect on elections, however not enough to "sway" the results, so I guess you can count me as a "No" vote. I do TOTALLY agree that there is too much negativity on these forums, that tend to turn away contributions from a lot of members. A lot of members I know read but do not post. I have gotten many emails from members/non-members/future members wishing to ask questions OFF the forum to avoid the personal attacks and negativity. Don

Nov 30, 2008, 11:20 AM	#56
Chestum Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 104	AMA member 2 years now

Nov 30, 2008, 11:47 AM	#57
SA716 RCG #1 Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: USA Posts: 213	AMA since 1979 and a couple of years in the 60s

Dec 24, 2008, 02:58 PM	#60
Murocflyer Our Goal:To Promote the Hobby Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: East Virginia Posts: 16,920	127 members. I guess that's not a bad showing here on RCG. Frank