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Old Jan 10, 2013, 08:24 AM
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I'm sure many of us have more then a few changes we would like to see on a new and improved PZ Radian Glider
The thing is, not everybody has the same list. Some people want a better prop for a faster climb, some want a stiffer tail for better elevator and rudder action, and so on. Every possible weakness of this plane has already been found and easy and effective solutions have also been found.

I wish Parkzone would realize that fiberglass is history and carbon fiber is better in every way. Every way except price that is. They are trying to attain a price point that doesn't allow that luxury, and that means we can still mod this plane to be better than their basic offering.

Look at the V2 Corsair that recently came out. It's heavier and more expensive and has a whole new set of problems that need to be worked out.
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Old Jan 10, 2013, 09:33 AM
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The Radian (not the Pro version) has been out for awhile now...and while I've owned a few since they first came out and love them - it would be nice if it received a refresh.

I'm sure many of us have more then a few changes we would like to see on a new and improved PZ Radian Glider (not the Pro model)...

Has anyone heard anything about a Radian V2 coming out in the relatively near future?

Thanks,
-mike-

i would like to see a more pointed spinner. the stock is too blunt.
i have got here some alternatives, 1 of them from bphobbies, plastic, that does fine and the shape is more to my liking, and about same weight.
see http://www.bphobbies.com/view.asp?id...1&pid=E1055866 and there is another from headsup rc that is all aluminum that looks great, although is heavier. see: http://www.headsuprc.com/servlet/the...Hub-for/Detail
i have both and am happy with them.
the thing is, the stock has the geometry that lets the pivot of the blade inside the spinner, hence more streamlined be when turning or when folded, and the others don't.
so i wish the designers of the stock rad could just release a spinner with same features, just more pointed... it would look much better.
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Old Jan 10, 2013, 04:34 PM
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The Radian (not the Pro version) has been out for awhile now...and while I've owned a few since they first came out and love them - it would be nice if it received a refresh.

I'm sure many of us have more then a few changes we would like to see on a new and improved PZ Radian Glider (not the Pro model)...

Has anyone heard anything about a Radian V2 coming out in the relatively near future?

Thanks,
-mike-
At least once every year there are rumors about a new Radian but it has never happened. A couple of years ago our brothers in the UK were sure it was about to happen because the supply line there had choked, but it was a false alarm. If and when it does we are not likely to know anything about it ahead of time. That would kill sales of existing inventory.

Personally I don't care. I know how to make the necessary mods to the existing model and don't want to relearn a new one. My best source for guidance is Paul Naton:

http://glidefast.typepad.com/glidefa...-ups.html#more
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Old Jan 11, 2013, 10:01 AM
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I moved up to the Mystique and it is great. It seemed to fast at first, but if you camber the wing just 3.5mm down, it floats like the Radian. I recommend this one if folk enjoy gliding and want to go full house.
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Old Jan 11, 2013, 03:03 PM
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I moved up to the Mystique and it is great. It seemed to fast at first, but if you camber the wing just 3.5mm down, it floats like the Radian. I recommend this one if folk enjoy gliding and want to go full house.
I wonder if there is a quantitative way to compare the sink rate of different sailplanes. We all know that the Radian with a wing loading of 6.6 oz/sq ft rates right up there as far as e-gliders go. How does the sink rate compare with a plane such as the Mystique that has almost double the wing loading, but is also larger and slicker? Obviously, sink rate depends on more than just wing loading.

I live in a place that is not known for having great thermals. What I would like to find, is an e-glider that can do the mostest with the leastest of the little bit of lift in my flying environment. Maybe I already have it.
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Old Jan 11, 2013, 03:38 PM
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I say to all of you guys that want more out of the Radian, than what it originally was designed for, to go buy yourselves a Phoenix 2000. Now, Fast??? You got it! Rigid??? You got it! Re-enforced wing spar??? Again,...you got it! Props that can slice through a salami and still maintain their sharp pointy tips??? You got it again! Strong, blow molded fuselage??? Yes!
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Old Jan 11, 2013, 04:30 PM
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There are always thermals when the sun is out in Smithers and you have great slopes that we prairie boys don't have so quit complaining
I was not complaining but instead asking if there was a quantitative method of comparing sink rates between sailplanes. I have managed to find one slope soaring site, but getting there is not for the faint of heart.
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I say to all of you guys that want more out of the Radian, than what it originally was designed for, to go buy yourselves a Phoenix 2000. Now, Fast??? You got it! Rigid??? You got it! Re-enforced wing spar??? Again,...you got it! Props that can slice through a salami and still maintain their sharp pointy tips??? You got it again! Strong, blow molded fuselage??? Yes!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFP2ZsNEURg
Spoken like a true electric airplane pilot. But this is about gliders.


Does it thermal like a Radian?

Well, as I read the reports .... Not so much.
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Old Jan 11, 2013, 06:18 PM
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Does it thermal like a Radian?

Well, as I read the reports .... Not so much.
There is a guy around here who has mated a Phoenix 2000 fuse with a radian wing that he has stretched to 2.6 meters. It floats pretty well!

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Old Jan 11, 2013, 06:59 PM
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It doesn't thermal like a Radian, because it's much heavier than the Radian and also, because it doesn't have the dehydral wing shape as the Radian, but she does thermal.
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Old Jan 11, 2013, 07:03 PM
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Spoken like a true electric airplane pilot. But this is about gliders.


Does it thermal like a Radian?

Well, as I read the reports .... Not so much.
BTW... All I fly are sailplanes...Phoenix 2000....Parkzone Radian.and my Ventus Discus.
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Old Jan 11, 2013, 09:29 PM
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i say to all of you guys that want more out of the radian, than what it originally was designed for, to go buy yourselves a phoenix 2000. Now, fast??? You got it! Rigid??? You got it! Re-enforced wing spar??? Again,...you got it! Props that can slice through a salami and still maintain their sharp pointy tips??? You got it again! Strong, blow molded fuselage??? Yes]
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