Originally Posted by rjmanzuk

Advantage Musclebiplane Rejuvinated
(Google it and enjoy) ... that's a "for real" Pitts Ultimate special, now modeled for us by PA

Wait a minute, here it is!

http://musclebiplane.org/htmlfile/advant.htm

Originally Posted by dead

Even when I spell Rejuvenate correctly I son't get anything?

Hmmmm ... and I used to think I could spell. Maybe that "R"-word is for RADICAL?
http://musclebiplane.org/htmlfile/radicals.htm

Air Molecule Redirector

Atomic Molecular Reactor

Aerobatic Molecular Reactor

Do any of you wonder if Shaun just made up these three letters and is waiting for one of us to come up with what it means? Yup, that's what it is... that was the only available domain name combining three letters with the word ultimate!!!

I'm still betting on Aerobatics Maneuverability Responsiveness

I'm IN already! I'm going to sell a NIB Freedom 3D so I can BUY this plane! Something about about a biplane that APPEALS to the EYE! Plus, they fly GOOD! If it flys as goood as my Addiction, it should be a BLAST!!! SPELL CHECK BY JOHNNIE WALKER!!!!

Hahaha Dumorian that thought has crossed my mind. It would be nice if Shaun would pop in to let us know, or atleast let us know what price we're looking at.

Originally Posted by rjmanzuk

Hmmmm ... and I used to think I could spell. Maybe that "R"-word is for RADICAL?
http://musclebiplane.org/htmlfile/radicals.htm

http://musclebiplane.org/htmlfile/mbipes1.php

2nd paragraph, first line; "Biplanes may be out of fashion. There is no doubt that uncommon pilot flying skills are put to the test mastering precision aerobatics in these machines."

So it's not just me; I think these guys REALLY like biplanes, but they know it's a fact; biplanes are simply the old school way of doing things, doesn't mean it's wrong or bad; just old school! "antique"

So hang me for looking at a modern biplane for what it is; a purpose built adaptation of an old design. We cool now?

Biplanes were originally produced (the first plane in history for that matter) because the old motors had such low power to weight that they needed extra wing area to have the aircraft airbrone- back in the other century. I agree with Aflipz here, but that doesn't stop this bipe from looking better and meaner than the majority of mono planes out there! But in the end- who the hell cares- as long as it flies good...

Not to say anyone is right or wrong in that argument but a monoplane would be the most antiquated aerobatic aircraft seeing as how aerobatics were invented by a guy bailing out of one one and watching it complete a full loop without him at the controls. He then later took up another Bleriot X1 monoplane and did a loop with himself actually in the aircraft.

Because of the brittle design of a monoplane aerobatics became the sole stomping grounds of biplanes during the early years of barnstorming and combat.

During WWII monoplanes gained favor as military aircraft because of the increased speed and range that they provide, but soon after the war the Pitts Special Biplane, the first ever aircraft specifically designed for aerobatics, became the most widely used performance aerobat and airshow workhorse.

The Pitts was followed by the Christen Eagle in the 70s and then the Ultimates and so forth. Today one of the best aerobatic shows in the world is Sean Tucker with his Oracle Biplane.

2008 Rhode Island ANG Open House - Sean Tucker (15 min 6 sec)

He does an upright harrier at the end of this vid (cool!)

So, a biplane wouldn't make sense for a jet airliner needing speed and range but for an aerobatic aircraft, biplanes have a long tradition of being top performers.

Remember the turbo raven with the same logo printed on it herc? It had only one wing and could actually fly 3D (4D in fact, it was vpp)

Here's a biplane with a jet turbine strapped under it's belly, strange nobody mentioned it yet;

Jimmy Franklin Jet Waco (4 min 29 sec)

He has to let off throttle at around 400Km/h or the wings will come off...

Yeah Flipz that was a cool bird no doubt about it:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...92639009239481

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...51820902328022

I'm not too sure I like the idea of the jet Waco though...

I'm not trying to get involved with a debate about which is better, monoplane or biplane. I was just trying to point out that biplanes do have their place in aerobatics.

Originally Posted by aflipz

Remember the turbo raven with the same logo printed on it herc? It had only one wing and could actually fly 3D (4D in fact, it was vpp)

Here's a biplane with a jet turbine strapped under it's belly, strange nobody mentioned it yet; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5jUttjraJE


He has to let off throttle at around 400Km/h or the wings will come off...

And the point of the jet engine is....???

OK, after watching all those airshow flicks, it reminds me to challenge PA to produce a controllable smoke package for us while employing their electrified airplanes. Want a huge moneymaker, Shaun ... I don't know an aerobat worth his/her salt that wouldn't add one to his/her menagerie.

Originally Posted by dead

And the point of the jet engine is....???

Because he can ... and because he does.

Originally Posted by hercdriver7777

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUT4v0z_KSk
He does an upright harrier at the end of this vid (cool!)

So, a biplane wouldn't make sense for a jet airliner needing speed and range but for an aerobatic aircraft, biplanes have a long tradition of being top performers.

Have you seen the Oracle Challenger website? It is amazing. Team Oracle