Another Chris Craft Triple Cockpit Barrel Back

trawlerlover · Aug 21, 2008, 06:38 PM

Here's another build thread about the Dumas Chris Craft Triple Cockpit Barrel Back. I'll get some pictures up in a couple of days. So far I have labeled all of the laser-cut sheets. The build will be very slow for multiple reasons so bear with me. One of the reasons is that I'm only 12 years old and still in school. Another reason is that I'm still really a newbie at this (I've built 1 rc model before, the Carol Moran). Because of both of these reasons I'm going to be needing a lot of help from all the experts here. I'll take any tips I can get! Now I've got to go get started building so I can get Kmot his pictures before too long.

RussCA · Aug 21, 2008, 07:29 PM

Good stuff, i have one sat in the front bedroom that is still in it's box and when i have moved house i will get into it...

Really looking forward to seeing your progress, happy decking and glassing (if you decide)

trawlerlover · Aug 23, 2008, 01:41 PM

I have a question already. What type of glue do you reccomend using to glue the support blocks onto the frames?

woodybob · Aug 23, 2008, 02:30 PM

Welcome trawlerlover,

Use hot glue to glue the frames to the building board. Easy to remove when you're ready to flip it over.

Glue...CA with a kicker works well for framing. It's way faster than epoxy.

norgale · Aug 23, 2008, 05:09 PM

Titebond lll works well too and it's way cheaper than epoxy or CA glue.It's also waterproof. Pete

trawlerlover · Aug 23, 2008, 08:52 PM

Ok thanks for the suggestions, but I think I'm going to pin the boat to the building board not hot glue it.

norgale · Aug 23, 2008, 08:58 PM

Nope! Pins arn't tough enough. Use the glue so the frames can' tcome lose on you while your planking. If the frames move even a little bit your hull could come out crooked. Not worth the chance with all that work to be done. Use the glue and you'll be happy that you did. Pete

trawlerlover · Aug 23, 2008, 09:02 PM

Ok, thanks for the tip, I just didn't want to use hot glue because I have no experience and don't want any trouble removing hull. Tomorrow I'll go get some Titebond and begin working on the boat. By the way what's the dry time for Titebond? And thanks for the really quick reply (before I made any mistakes

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trawlerlover · Aug 24, 2008, 11:16 AM

Can I use wood glue then epoxy over the entire insde of the boat after the sub-planking instead of using Titebond?

norgale · Aug 24, 2008, 11:34 AM

TiteBond is the wood glue to use I think. By all means coat the inside with epoxy and do it throughly. Mix the epoxy and thin it some-maybe about 25%.then you can paint it on with a brush. Just mix a small amount at a time till you know how far you can go with one batch. After a couple of batches you'l be comfortable with the mixing and it should go very well for you.
Actually any wood glue will do for building these wood models. The thing with Titebond is that it's waterproof where other "white" glues are not. I've used it on several large models and it's been fine so far.
One other thing. After you apply the first layer of planks you may have some open seams in the hull. I had plenty of them. Put some masking tape over the hull ( I just did the whole thing) and then do the epoxy inside. The tape will keep the epoxy from dribbeling through any open seams and running down the sides of the hull. It'll save you all the time to sand off the dribbles after the epoxy sets up. Pete

trawlerlover · Aug 25, 2008, 05:23 PM

Another question, the instructions say I need two building boards. Why do I need two? Also, I don't have enough room for two 48 inch building boards, can I get away with just one?

norgale · Aug 25, 2008, 05:54 PM

If you don't have the room as I don't have the room then you have to go with one. Right??? I have one of the balsa building boards from Guillows and it's great. It's 48" long and just fits on my building table with a few inches on either end to spare. Don't know why they would want you to have two building boards but I'm sure you can go with one with no problems. Pete

Gravman · Aug 25, 2008, 06:25 PM

When it talks about 2 building boards I think they want you to use a double layer. One on top of the other as I recall.

Grav

trawlerlover · Aug 25, 2008, 06:29 PM

I don't know If I'm going to go with the balsa building board but I think all I need is one board. I also looked at the pictures again and it looks like one piece of tile (maybe) goes on top of a piece of wood. I'm just going to use a piece of wood. I'll get some pictures uploaded as soon as I get the frames glued in place.

sergio_Italy · Aug 25, 2008, 06:45 PM

Welcome on board trawlerlover, I cannot wait any longer for seeing your boat, enjoy building and sailing it

Aug 21, 2008, 06:38 PM	#1
trawlerlover boating addict Join Date: May 2008 Location: Coral Springs, FL Posts: 223	Another Chris Craft Triple Cockpit Barrel Back Here's another build thread about the Dumas Chris Craft Triple Cockpit Barrel Back. I'll get some pictures up in a couple of days. So far I have labeled all of the laser-cut sheets. The build will be very slow for multiple reasons so bear with me. One of the reasons is that I'm only 12 years old and still in school. Another reason is that I'm still really a newbie at this (I've built 1 rc model before, the Carol Moran). Because of both of these reasons I'm going to be needing a lot of help from all the experts here. I'll take any tips I can get! Now I've got to go get started building so I can get Kmot his pictures before too long. Last edited by trawlerlover; Aug 24, 2008 at 12:07 PM.

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Aug 21, 2008, 07:29 PM	#2
RussCA Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Petaluma, CA Posts: 132	Good stuff, i have one sat in the front bedroom that is still in it's box and when i have moved house i will get into it... Really looking forward to seeing your progress, happy decking and glassing (if you decide)

Aug 23, 2008, 01:41 PM	#3
trawlerlover boating addict Join Date: May 2008 Location: Coral Springs, FL Posts: 223	I have a question already. What type of glue do you reccomend using to glue the support blocks onto the frames?

Aug 23, 2008, 02:30 PM	#4
woodybob WooHoo! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Lake Balboa, California Posts: 2,581	Welcome trawlerlover, Use hot glue to glue the frames to the building board. Easy to remove when you're ready to flip it over. Glue...CA with a kicker works well for framing. It's way faster than epoxy.

Aug 23, 2008, 05:09 PM	#5
norgale Retired for now Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 4,089	Titebond lll works well too and it's way cheaper than epoxy or CA glue.It's also waterproof. Pete

Aug 23, 2008, 08:52 PM	#6
trawlerlover boating addict Join Date: May 2008 Location: Coral Springs, FL Posts: 223	Ok thanks for the suggestions, but I think I'm going to pin the boat to the building board not hot glue it.

Aug 23, 2008, 08:58 PM	#7
norgale Retired for now Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 4,089	Nope! Pins arn't tough enough. Use the glue so the frames can' tcome lose on you while your planking. If the frames move even a little bit your hull could come out crooked. Not worth the chance with all that work to be done. Use the glue and you'll be happy that you did. Pete

Aug 23, 2008, 09:02 PM	#8
trawlerlover boating addict Join Date: May 2008 Location: Coral Springs, FL Posts: 223	Ok, thanks for the tip, I just didn't want to use hot glue because I have no experience and don't want any trouble removing hull. Tomorrow I'll go get some Titebond and begin working on the boat. By the way what's the dry time for Titebond? And thanks for the really quick reply (before I made any mistakes )

Aug 24, 2008, 11:16 AM	#9
trawlerlover boating addict Join Date: May 2008 Location: Coral Springs, FL Posts: 223	Can I use wood glue then epoxy over the entire insde of the boat after the sub-planking instead of using Titebond?

Aug 24, 2008, 11:34 AM	#10
norgale Retired for now Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 4,089	TiteBond is the wood glue to use I think. By all means coat the inside with epoxy and do it throughly. Mix the epoxy and thin it some-maybe about 25%.then you can paint it on with a brush. Just mix a small amount at a time till you know how far you can go with one batch. After a couple of batches you'l be comfortable with the mixing and it should go very well for you. Actually any wood glue will do for building these wood models. The thing with Titebond is that it's waterproof where other "white" glues are not. I've used it on several large models and it's been fine so far. One other thing. After you apply the first layer of planks you may have some open seams in the hull. I had plenty of them. Put some masking tape over the hull ( I just did the whole thing) and then do the epoxy inside. The tape will keep the epoxy from dribbeling through any open seams and running down the sides of the hull. It'll save you all the time to sand off the dribbles after the epoxy sets up. Pete

Aug 25, 2008, 05:23 PM	#11
trawlerlover boating addict Join Date: May 2008 Location: Coral Springs, FL Posts: 223	Another question, the instructions say I need two building boards. Why do I need two? Also, I don't have enough room for two 48 inch building boards, can I get away with just one?

Aug 25, 2008, 05:54 PM	#12
norgale Retired for now Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 4,089	If you don't have the room as I don't have the room then you have to go with one. Right??? I have one of the balsa building boards from Guillows and it's great. It's 48" long and just fits on my building table with a few inches on either end to spare. Don't know why they would want you to have two building boards but I'm sure you can go with one with no problems. Pete

Aug 25, 2008, 06:25 PM	#13
Gravman Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Shoreacres Texas Posts: 242	When it talks about 2 building boards I think they want you to use a double layer. One on top of the other as I recall. Grav

Aug 25, 2008, 06:29 PM	#14
trawlerlover boating addict Join Date: May 2008 Location: Coral Springs, FL Posts: 223	I don't know If I'm going to go with the balsa building board but I think all I need is one board. I also looked at the pictures again and it looks like one piece of tile (maybe) goes on top of a piece of wood. I'm just going to use a piece of wood. I'll get some pictures uploaded as soon as I get the frames glued in place.

Aug 25, 2008, 06:45 PM	#15
sergio_Italy gamma Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: milano_Italy Posts: 100	Welcome on board trawlerlover, I cannot wait any longer for seeing your boat, enjoy building and sailing it