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Old Nov 21, 2012, 02:15 PM
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Once again though, that's considering the worse possible, and least likely, scenario. Given reasonable precautions to avoid full scale aircraft (especially flying low to the ground where one would almost never be), the chances of actually colluding with an aircraft are slim. Then the chances that you will hit the most critical part of that aircraft (propeller or jet engine intakes), which are only a small portion of the surface area of the plane, are lower still. When the risk is already that low, legislating for the worse case scenario makes no rational sense.
If this was in response to my post the point got lost in the translation.

I was not referring to a jet engine but human inhalation. While a 30 gm model could make it through the lungs and back out again it could very well hang up on something and stick. Maybe you could cough it out maybe not. Still it would be nice if they were all that small, as it would have solved a lot of problems since the living room is all the airspace required.
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Old Nov 21, 2012, 08:59 PM
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If this was in response to my post the point got lost in the translation.

I was not referring to a jet engine but human inhalation. While a 30 gm model could make it through the lungs and back out again it could very well hang up on something and stick. Maybe you could cough it out maybe not. Still it would be nice if they were all that small, as it would have solved a lot of problems since the living room is all the airspace required.
I can't imagine FPV being quite as popular if it was confined to the living room.
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Old Nov 22, 2012, 04:08 AM
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I can't imagine FPV being quite as popular if it was confined to the living room.
It wouldn't have to be confined to the living room as long as all doors to other rooms were left open. Should still be able to do BVLOS flight.
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Old Nov 22, 2012, 07:10 AM
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It wouldn't have to be confined to the living room as long as all doors to other rooms were left open. Should still be able to do BVLOS flight.
You must live in a very large house without any breakables to FPV inside.

Maybe outside if you put up a net to keep it from straying off your property.
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Old Nov 22, 2012, 07:51 AM
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You must live in a very large house without any breakables to FPV inside.

Maybe outside if you put up a net to keep it from straying off your property.
Obviously for things like this you wait until your wife is out shopping.
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Old Nov 22, 2012, 07:59 AM
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Someone needs to contract the almighty ama to ask permission to fly around people and property this is forbidden by them, the regulations drawn up by them didn't account for weight differences or common sense. Have i mentioned that I'm a little bitter about being regulated by hypocrites?
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Old Nov 22, 2012, 09:52 AM
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Gary's floor plan would allow for BLOS flying.
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Old Nov 22, 2012, 09:56 AM
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Happy Thanksgiving Patrick and the rest of the gang!
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Old Nov 22, 2012, 06:16 PM
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Happy Thanksgiving Patrick and the rest of the gang!
Happy Thanksgiving to you too. I have a few minutes by myself while my wife is out buying the things to replace what I recently broke with my little heelo.
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Old Nov 22, 2012, 07:19 PM
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Happy Thanksgiving to you too. I have a few minutes by myself while my wife is out buying the things to replace what I recently broke with my little heelo.
See what you get for flying a UAS without a COA?
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Old Nov 23, 2012, 08:43 PM
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Thanks, and tell the wife I said hello!
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Old Nov 26, 2012, 07:13 AM
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Technological breakthrough for legal VOLS FPV

And it comes with a 3 month supply of Dramamine.


http://tinyurl.com/cureruh
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Old Nov 27, 2012, 01:24 AM
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Just saw this on SUASNews: http://www.suasnews.com/2012/11/1983...our-rpas-here/

And they say Trappy is going to be the one to get FPV banned......

Here's the video at issue, kindly re-posted by SUASNews (I'm assuming the original poster panicked at the news coverage and took it down). Skip to 2:40 to see the show.

AeroXCraft Gimbal Test 2 (5 min 33 sec)


Honestly I'm at a loss. How could someone be so stupid as to purposefully fly their quadcopter in an approach route for a major airport in order to film the airliners landing from the air. He was at most a few hundred feet away from that plane and virtually at a level with it. I just don't understand how someone could possibly think this would be a good idea to begin with, and then to actually post that online is just unfathomable. It certainly displays an astonishing ignorance of all the politics around FPV and RC flying in general that have been going on for the last couple years.

I imagine this guy will be hearing from the FAA soon, and I wouldn't be surprised if this time they find it worth their while to do a full on enforcement action. I would hate for a precedent setting case regarding the applicability of FAA rules to FPV hobbyists to come from this....
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Old Nov 27, 2012, 01:52 AM
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Given the relatively poor shot tracking, I'd say there's a good chance, this is once again LoS
piloted and not FPV. Make of that what you will. Yes, what he did was extremely idiotic, but
it violates rules and laws already on the books and new ones won't really change that.
I do sort of wonder whether publicizing a copy of this vid within our own community (even with
accompanying condemnation) is better or worse for our community, than simply letting the video
fade away after he took it down. Oh well, guess we'll find out.

ian
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Old Nov 27, 2012, 02:13 AM
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Given the relatively poor shot tracking, I'd say there's a good chance, this is once again LoS
piloted and not FPV.

ian
Really crossing my fingers for that assumption to be true, although I'm not sure
how much difference it will make to the FAA and others who are outside of the
RC community. Chances are the shear fact that the idiot had a camera on the
quad will be enough for the FAA and others to tie this to FPV.

-Blues
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