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Old Feb 20, 2012, 08:44 AM
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As a slope soaring, dynamic soaring, fpv pilot, I've never been much for RC clubs or rule followers.

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I have found that most AMA clubs are full of hypocrits as far as safety rules go. Almost every club I've been to says one thing and does completely another. Even up to an including Muncie. Want to see rockets fired from the wings of rc planes? Go to Muncie and watch them put on a show. Funny thing is this is a big no no according to the safety policy. But hey "we're pros" don't you know?
At other events and fields, I've seen drinking, poor impounding procedures, lack of spotters, you name it, and nothing was done.
But you let me even mention FPV and they get their panties all in knots
There is a core group in the AMA that would like nothing better than to ban rc altogether and go back to stick and tissue. It's these types that have lobbied the FAA and the AMA to crack down on things they don't like.
I dropped out of the AMA ten years ago and have not regretted the decision. It's all about money.
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Old Feb 20, 2012, 10:41 AM
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Sooner or later, the major Governments of the worlds are finally going to figure out that they are all capable of blowing eachother to smithereens, and no one can stop the others. . I won't give any plausible scenarios, but none would entail the use of Military aircraft, ships or vehicles . .all would be clandestine. .and all would be totally unexpected. . and untraceable to the source attcking Government.

Sooner or later they are going to come to grips with this realization .. until then, the insanity of Arms production and the over-emphasis on supporting the Military-Industrial complex of the world will continue.

When they finally come to grips with this realization. . maybe we will have peace. . .look for them to pull their heads out of their posteriors in about 50 years or so. . . if we are lucky.

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Old Feb 20, 2012, 11:20 AM
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Krisw,

At least we know you are an optimist
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Old Feb 20, 2012, 11:12 PM
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Sooner or later, the major Governments of the worlds are finally going to figure out that they are all capable of blowing eachother to smithereens, and no one can stop the others. . I won't give any plausible scenarios, but none would entail the use of Military aircraft, ships or vehicles . .all would be clandestine. .and all would be totally unexpected. . and untraceable to the source attcking Government.

Sooner or later they are going to come to grips with this realization .. until then, the insanity of Arms production and the over-emphasis on supporting the Military-Industrial complex of the world will continue.

When they finally come to grips with this realization. . maybe we will have peace. . .look for them to pull their heads out of their posteriors in about 50 years or so. . . if we are lucky.

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unless the interpretation of the myan callendar is correct.
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Old Feb 21, 2012, 12:03 AM
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unless the interpretation of the myan callendar is correct.
I think the ancient Mayans foresaw the banning of FPV
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Old Feb 21, 2012, 08:50 AM
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Is there anything they didn't know??
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Old Feb 23, 2012, 12:13 AM
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And as for the 5 mile requirement, I guess a lot of us will just have to start bugging control towers constantly. "Hi my name is X and over the next hour I will be flying remote control airplanes within 1 mile of Y city park, which is located 4.5 miles from the airport."
that's exactly what im planning on doing. don't call when you fly. call every time you take off. the FAA wants us to be a pain in the ass, we'll be a pain in the ass.

for the record, i have called birmingham international airport several times in the last year when flying near it. never had a problem. i just tell them i'll be under the height of the tallest building, that i wont be in the runway paths. never had an issue.
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I have found that most AMA clubs are full of hypocrits as far as safety rules go....
oh idk. i never found any in my years of doing AMA / clubs down here. they were all great. then again it is the south...

the only three instances of people doing bad were called bevis & butthead by everyone else. one was just "unsafe" (it was a windy field and sometimes with funflies and trainers peole would simply line up down a concrete taxi-way to the asphalt runway & go for it straight across the runway. it was a long done thing, nobody had a problem with it. it was a big club, plenty safe. but bevis use to it when the field would be busy with people in adjacent pilot boxes between the taxi ways. the other was bad to provoke the next door neighbor who was a total arse.
they got kicked out.
the other guy flew a .60 sized telemaster or something into my side WOT one day trying to save his plane instead of ditching it. i was fine, but dad liked to have kicked his ass. he never showed back up.

otherwise, years & tons of pilots i never encountered any problems. no fighting, no real gross rules beaking.

& a lot of the normal AMA rules i do agree with. things like establishing a clear traffic pattern for taking off & landing. (but once you're up you're free to do whatever) flying front of you & never behind. putting the pits & spectators behind you where they're safe.
all the basic stuff is good & unfortunately you can't say it's obvious. i quit flying with the electric park fliers. scariest bunch of people ever. as a large group they do stupid things all the time & assume their small model & lack of knowing a better way to do things makes it ok.

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I dropped out of the AMA ten years ago and have not regretted the decision. It's all about money.
preach on brother. what do i care what a magazine publisher & insurance company has anything to say about anything.
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Old Feb 23, 2012, 03:20 AM
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the problem is they are the loudest voice RC has at the moment. if you want to lobby for change it s probably a good idea to try to work with them as much as possible.

if you are just gonna go do your own thing like most FPVers then who cares what laws come in right...? it is the policing of the laws that will be the concern (if it ever happens)
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Old Feb 27, 2012, 07:42 PM
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New article:

Some positive / some negative, but the direction of the discussion is promissing...


http://www.ksl.com/?sid=19372674&nid=1014

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Congress has told the FAA that the agency must allow civilian and military drones to fly in civilian airspace by September 2015. This spring, the FAA is set to take a first step by proposing rules that would allow limited commercial use of small drones for the first time.
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Potential civilian users are as varied as the drones themselves.

Power companies want them to monitor transmission lines. Farmers want to fly them over fields to detect which crops need water. Ranchers want them to count cows.
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Old Mar 02, 2012, 12:54 PM
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Don't worry the FAA know that AeroVironment and Raytheon have your backs

http://www.suasnews.com/2012/03/1255...e-represented/

@Patrick or anyone else do we actually know what the AMA agreed to when they went to be told off??

Was no autonomous flight of any sort still on the cards? Along with time and altitude restrictions?

I know lots of people will now say, but I' not a member of the AMA what do I care. What it potentially means is that you can't be insured if not.

I'm quite angry about whats happening to you chaps in the New World, but what should I care I don't fly there ;-)
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Old Mar 02, 2012, 01:12 PM
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We are a community... What happens here could happen there.
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Old Mar 02, 2012, 02:29 PM
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Well that would mean they would have to undo laws in place. What I do know is that a CPL(U) is on the cards for the UK and that would be no bad thing. It would end some of the UAS training uncertainty that abounds. You guys have that one to come ;-)
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Old Mar 06, 2012, 10:00 PM
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unless the interpretation of the myan callendar is correct.
The Myan calendar is incorrect as they didn't account for leap year...the date has actually already passed.
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Old Mar 06, 2012, 11:35 PM
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The Myan calendar is incorrect as they didn't account for leap year...the date has actually already passed.
That is actually incorrect as well as off topic. The 2012 date was converted
from the mayan calendar, which you are correct, didn't have leap years. Why?
Because they didn't need them. They're calendar was actually more accurate
than ours. Either way the converted date is correct because in the conversion
leap years were factored in moving from their calendar to ours (gregorian).

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Old Mar 06, 2012, 11:37 PM
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Look, do I stop paying the mortgage now or what?
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