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Old Aug 18, 2008, 09:37 PM
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B24 Liberator

Hello Team,

The objective of this thread is to design a 62" span B24 D Liberator as close to scale as possible. I will post pictures of the parts as they are designed, and would appreciate any help or comments that you can provide to get the design just right. Once the design is completed, Wowplanes will kit this plane with plastics by Keith Sparks.

Here is a list of our goals:

1. Kit to include all foam parts in white EPS foam, CNC pre-cut.
2. No hot wire cutting required by you.
3. Minimal sanding or shaping.
4. Kit to include all the plastic parts as shown in this thread.
5. It will have a removable wing.
6. Assembly time to be 10 hours or less.
7. Full color illustrated, on-line construction manual provided.
8 Completely designed and manufactured in the USA.
9. Can be ordered from our website http://www.wowplanes.com
10. Target price - $130 to $150

Here are some pictures of the real thing.

Fahim
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Old Aug 18, 2008, 10:06 PM
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Great Fahim, following with interest. Regards, Jeff
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Old Aug 18, 2008, 10:44 PM
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Sweet, subsribed!

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Old Aug 18, 2008, 11:01 PM
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Hey there....please consider going 63-64" in span so it is the same scale as the B-17...it will need that extra wing area with the high aspect ratio Davis wing from the B-24.
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Old Aug 19, 2008, 03:54 AM
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Hey there....please consider going 63-64" in span so it is the same scale as the B-17...it will need that extra wing area with the high aspect ratio Davis wing from the B-24.
Make it 2 or even 3 piece wing for a long wing model to ease transportation would be great. Maybe even removable tail like the Top Flite B25?
http://www.top-flite.com/airplanes/topa0980.html
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Old Aug 19, 2008, 08:51 AM
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I won't make any change recommendations, just get it available right away
The size you've noted and your price point make it an extremely attractive package.
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Old Aug 19, 2008, 10:32 AM
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Hey there....please consider going 63-64" in span so it is the same scale as the B-17...it will need that extra wing area with the high aspect ratio Davis wing from the B-24.
Thomas
See post #227 for the reasoning to go for 62"

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...&highlight=b17

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Old Aug 19, 2008, 10:40 AM
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Make it 2 or even 3 piece wing for a long wing model to ease transportation would be great. Maybe even removable tail like the Top Flite B25?
http://www.top-flite.com/airplanes/topa0980.html
Shschon,

That is the beauty of a builder's kit.

We give you a platform that can be modified, embellished, enhanced, etc. Just let the creative juices flow freely and there is no reson why you cannot make it a removable tail, a multi-sectional wing, or even a multi-sectional fuselage. Please post pics so the rest of us can learn how you did it.

The greatest satisfaction and joy of model building comes with sharing information, learning from the experiences of others, and experimenting with new building techniques, materials, etc. I have added a category called "Free Know How" to our website to further this goal.

PS: We have a nice little hurricane (Fay) going through our area right now. So there will be no flying today, only designing.

Fahim
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Old Aug 19, 2008, 12:05 PM
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See post #227 for the reasoning to go for 62"

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...&highlight=b17

Fahim
Good point...you still could make the wingtips separate to fit the box better.
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Old Aug 20, 2008, 10:51 AM
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The B24 is one of my favorites and I've always wanted one. Just subscribed and watching closely.

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Old Aug 21, 2008, 08:00 AM
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B24 Prototype

Hello,

The B24 design is pretty much done and I was able to do the first prototype cuts.

Here are some pics of how it looks in raw foam, assembled with tape.

Your feedback is highly appreciated.

Fahim
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Old Aug 21, 2008, 09:57 AM
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Fahim, looking great! You really have captured the look of the "Boxcar". Two questions, would you be able to cut an airfoil shape into the Veritcals? Do you have a current weight?

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Old Aug 21, 2008, 11:26 AM
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Looking great! Glad you went with the D version.

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Old Aug 21, 2008, 12:02 PM
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Fahim, looking great! You really have captured the look of the "Boxcar". Two questions, would you be able to cut an airfoil shape into the Veritcals? Do you have a current weight?

D-Rock
Considering that I have sanded nothing yet the shape is pretty close. Once the belly is sanded into a curve, it should look even better.

I will try the airfoil and see how that comes out.

Weight up to this point is 13 oz.

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Old Aug 21, 2008, 12:10 PM
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Fahim,
What dia. props will the B24 accept?

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