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Old Aug 18, 2008, 03:53 PM
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Denver criticized for preparing for 'activist' activity

They've turned a warehouse into a processing center in order to deal with possible mass arrests. For this they are being excoriated, looks to me like they are just preparing as they should.

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DENVER - Activist groups say the converted warehouse poses a threat to civil liberties. The city maintains the facility is needed in case of mass arrests during the Democratic National Convention.

"The public was never going to view this place, it was just found out," Spagnuolo said. "They got caught with this place. They told our lawyers in negotiations that this place didn't even exist."The makeshift holding center, dubbed "Gitmo on the Platte" by activists, is located on city-owned property near Steele Street and 38th Avenue. Newly-installed security cameras guard the exterior, chain-link fences and barbed wire form cells inside.

"We feel the city should be ashamed of this secret prison they've set up," said Re-create '68 organizer Glenn Spagnuolo.

Spagnuolo and other activists gathered outside the formerly-secret facility on Friday to protest the city's plan to use it as a processing center for all those arrested outside the DNC.

"The public was never going to view this place, it was just found out," Spagnuolo said. "They got caught with this place. They told our lawyers in negotiations that this place didn't even exist."

"This was never a secret site," said Undersheriff Bill Lovingier, the city's director of corrections.

Lovingier said the city had long planned to build a new holding facility for the DNC, which triples the processing speed of the city jail. Lovingier said the Steele Street warehouse will be able to process 60 arrestees an hour.

"This center is designed as an arrest processing site," Lovinger said. "There will be no housing or long-term detentions."

Activists said that claim was doubtful.

"What's going to happen here is police are going to detain people for an inordinate amount of time," said Unconventional Denver organizer Ben Yager. "They're going to use this as an excuse to keep people out of the courts and off of the streets."

Protest groups questioned whether the makeshift facility would be suitable for inhabitation after years as a storage facility
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warehouse into arrest process facility
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Old Aug 18, 2008, 04:38 PM
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If it weren't for the 1968 Chicago Democrat convention, I don't think they'd have gone this far to prepare.

But considering what radicals are capable of, as shown at the 1968 Chicago Democrat convention, it's not unreasonable to prepare.

Sounds good to me.

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Old Aug 18, 2008, 04:49 PM
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given the existence of the 'recreate 68' folks, it's hard for me to fault them. better to prepare and not need it than not prepare and...
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Old Aug 18, 2008, 04:53 PM
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Naturally if such efficient planning was being made in Minneapolis for the Republican convention.. ....secret detention facilities for protesters ..our distinguished LTUP colleagues from the left would be equally "silent"
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Old Aug 18, 2008, 05:10 PM
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best part is, I seem to remember being told that not starting threads protesting something means you're in favor of it. what you categorically state you oppose doesn't count unless you also start a thread on it
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Old Aug 18, 2008, 05:30 PM
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Do I need to bring a strawman in here so we have someone to argue and make fun of?

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Old Aug 18, 2008, 05:36 PM
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we can wait for that one, it'll show up
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Old Aug 18, 2008, 05:58 PM
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This would be a great place for a BA entrance ....but I don't know if he is ready yet.
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Old Aug 18, 2008, 06:23 PM
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I'm hoping for everyone's sake that new facility goes unused. Given the history of protests from folks who are big on 'direct action' however, I'd say it's 50/50.
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Old Aug 18, 2008, 09:57 PM
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this whole business sounds like they're preparing for some kinda futuristic /orwellian police state....
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Old Aug 18, 2008, 10:30 PM
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This could be a dry run for Obama's new "Army of Civilians" I wonder I they'll get some kind of cool space guns or something.. Green Star Trek "phasers".. All this stuff makes me feel so old.
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Old Aug 19, 2008, 02:38 PM
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this whole business sounds like they're preparing for some kinda futuristic /orwellian police state....
well, they are dealing with dems, so it's eerily appropriate. who better to appreciate the implications of a police state than those whose policies rely on one?
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Old Aug 19, 2008, 04:33 PM
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Guess its best to watch the circus on T.V.
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Old Aug 19, 2008, 04:55 PM
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best part is, I seem to remember being told that not starting threads protesting something means you're in favor of it. what you categorically state you oppose doesn't count unless you also start a thread on it
You have a faulty memory.
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Old Aug 19, 2008, 04:58 PM
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yeah, that must be it. not a week or two has passed since someone or another commented that they didn't believe I opposed corporate welfare because i had never started a thread on it. must be the dementia. oh well, if that's the case, the dems will have another voter on the way.
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