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Old Feb 04, 2003, 07:12 PM
daytripper
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Semi-On Topic: X-Wing Fly-Off competition documentary on PBS *right now*

8PM Eastern time on PBS tonite...
Old Feb 04, 2003, 09:02 PM
Normen Strobel
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Re: Semi-On Topic: X-Wing Fly-Off competition documentary on PBS *right now*

Great Show. Thanks for the heads up. Almost makes me want to donate to
PBS.

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> 8PM Eastern time on PBS tonite...





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Old Feb 04, 2003, 09:42 PM
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Re: Semi-On Topic: X-Wing Fly-Off competition documentary on PBS *right now*

On Tue, 4 Feb 2003 21:52:43 -0500, "Normen Strobel"
<nstrobel@nospam.zoominternet.net> wrote:

>"daytripper" <day_trippr@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote in message
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>> 8PM Eastern time on PBS tonite...

>


>Great Show. Thanks for the heads up. Almost makes me want to donate to
>PBS.


Thanks for not making fun of my errant "X-Wing" in the title - should have
been "X-Plane", of course...

Maybe the Air Force Thunderbirds documentary that immediately followed will be
enough for "viewers like you" ;-) to kick in. There was some remarkable
footage going back to the first crews of 1953-54.

You always hear about 18" separation but until you see the footage up close
it's a concept that's hard to swallow...

/daytripper (And I wonder how they fit their balls inside the cockpit :-)
Old Feb 04, 2003, 10:02 PM
Martin X. Moleski, SJ
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Re: Semi-On Topic: X-Wing Fly-Off competition documentary on PBS *right now*

On Tue, 4 Feb 2003 21:52:43 -0500, "Normen Strobel"
<nstrobel@nospam.zoominternet.net> wrote:

>Great Show. Thanks for the heads up.


I found it by accident and watched all two hours with
great interest.

I like the looks of the Lockheed--and the corporate
name & history. I was impressed by the compliments
they paid Boeing about its innovative jigs.

I'm sure the Boeing guys are wishing they'd had a
complete working prototype of the second edition.
Based on what we saw on TV, I'd pick the Lockheed,
too.

But I wonder about the titanium bulkhead that takes
5 months to machine. That's always going to be
expensive, isn't it?

Anyway, it gives me something to think about while
watching the F35 fly for the next FORTY YEARS (!) or
until I die, whichever comes first. :-O

Marty

Old Feb 05, 2003, 08:32 AM
Normen Strobel
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Re: Semi-On Topic: X-Wing Fly-Off competition documentary on PBS *right now*

I don't feel bad that Boeing lost, considering that they have other projects
that they could fall back on. This was all or nothing for Lockheed. As for
the titanum bulk heads, I'm assuming it took 5 months for the first one,
since it was machined from titanium block. Now that they have a contract,
I'm sure they will make a mold to produce the bulkheads quicker.


"Martin X. Moleski, SJ" <moleski@canisius.edu> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 4 Feb 2003 21:52:43 -0500, "Normen Strobel"
> <nstrobel@nospam.zoominternet.net> wrote:
>
> >Great Show. Thanks for the heads up.

>
> I found it by accident and watched all two hours with
> great interest.
>
> I like the looks of the Lockheed--and the corporate
> name & history. I was impressed by the compliments
> they paid Boeing about its innovative jigs.
>
> I'm sure the Boeing guys are wishing they'd had a
> complete working prototype of the second edition.
> Based on what we saw on TV, I'd pick the Lockheed,
> too.
>
> But I wonder about the titanium bulkhead that takes
> 5 months to machine. That's always going to be
> expensive, isn't it?
>
> Anyway, it gives me something to think about while
> watching the F35 fly for the next FORTY YEARS (!) or
> until I die, whichever comes first. :-O
>
> Marty
>





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Old Feb 05, 2003, 04:22 PM
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Re: Semi-On Topic: X-Wing Fly-Off competition documentary on PBS *right now*

On Wed, 05 Feb 2003 09:57:59 -0500, jim breeeyar <james.breeyear@uvm.edu>
wrote:

>daytripper wrote:
>> 8PM Eastern time on PBS tonite...

>That was a great show! Should get an award for work done by producer.
>I dont feel too bad for Boeing. They got the unmannd stuff to work on.
>Lockheed apparently hasnt developed it like Boeing. Like they said, the
>next generation of fighters could well be robotic / r/c. So maybe not so
>bleak for Boeing afterall.


And in fact, it's rarely "over" in these matters. No doubt there will be
plenty of work subbed to Boeing anyway...

 


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