



Kontronik?
Is not NESail the exclusive distributor of Kontronik products in the US? Sal has always had any motor or controller that Kontonik has in production.



Joined May 2000
8,533 Posts

augusta,
I guess he has become a dealer. EAMRC (Dave?).... Not that I can afford to buy too many brushless setups, but around here it seems the FanDriveS (Fun40036 and smile 401612) and Fun 40042 are the one's I recall getting alot of mention here. Maybe someone else with chip in with more info... Paul 




St. Mary, Maryland, United States
Joined Dec 1996
10,107 Posts

Arbo has the mini fan covered.
The 60018 and 60015 are good for 90mm fans on 16 and 20'ish cells respectively. The 50021 is good for 1214 cells in 8690mm fans. 



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Fun 48042 & MF480 in MiG15: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...5&pagenumber=7 Fun 48033 & MF480 in Eurofighter 2000: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...5&pagenumber=8 



Joined May 2000
8,533 Posts

If memory serves me right, Haldor had/has a KC Bug that was Kontronics powered, and he used to hand launch it. I think he mainly uses the 40042, but I'd wait for him to come along and notice this.
Because besides the 400, they have the 480's which are a bit longer, and of course stronger. But with power is extra weight (30 g or so) and of course your battery weight is going to go up if you want any duration. I think the guys across the pond have more experience with the Kontronics stuff, so I'd wait for one of them to chip in. Paul 




Deutschland, BadenWürttemberg, Ebersbach an der Fils
Joined Dec 2001
922 Posts

Just my 5 cent on Wemo 480
I try to use always Rc1600 (CP1700) in such models for the Wemo 480. Except in models like the TA183 from RBC, the new BV212, Pampa from Gloeckner i do use 12 x TS1700AUP with the 40028 or 48028. Normally i prefer the 40036 or 48036 at 10 normal or zapped batteries depends on model and CG. I want power and duration and the current is ok without zapped batteries. My flying style is often part load, i fly normally 5min + 12 batteries will be ok with 480 type, too. Others prefer the 42 at 10 normal or zapped batteries, the current draw is higher and you have more trust etc...I use this setup for meetings and in future, when the capacity of the batteries are growing. (2000mAh in 4/5 size and same power handling as RC1600, i hope this is soon from anyone coming) If you are Herb you take Motors with 4700RPm and put 12 zapped batteries in it, short runnin time but very much power. In my opinion it's to much for most customers, but very funny. You need very good batteries and controllers which handle very high current. Motor depends on that, what the user want. I try to get the information from the customer via EMail or telephone and try to get the correct motor for him. I try to stay always in a 35 to 40A range if possible. 


Deutschland, BadenWürttemberg, Ebersbach an der Fils
Joined Dec 2001
922 Posts

Midifan measurements with the new RPMS
FUN 50024 8,50 Volt 27,20 A 18532 U/min 231 Watt 2400 U/Volt 675 gr. FUN 50024 8,70 Volt 27,90 A 18710 U/min 243 Watt 705 gr. FUN 50024 9,60 Volt 33,30 A 20331 U/min 320 Watt 836 gr. FUN 50024 10,80 Volt 39,50 A 22723 U/min 427 Watt 1020 gr. FUN 50024 11,10 Volt 41,20 A 23173 U/min 457 Watt 1053 gr. FUN 50024 13,80 Volt 53,60 A 26775 U/min 740 Watt 1458 gr. FUN 60013 9,10 Volt 6,30 A 11595 U/min 57 Watt 1300 U/Volt 266 gr. FUN 60013 7,40 A 12775 U/min 75 Watt 322 gr. FUN 60013 11,20 Volt 8,80 A 13974 U/min 99 Watt 387 gr. FUN 60013 12,20 Volt 10,20 A 15095 U/min 124 Watt 465 gr. FUN 60013 13,70 Volt 12,60 A 17105 U/min 173 Watt 576 gr. FUN 60013 16,60 Volt 18,10 A 20577 U/min 300 Watt 851 gr. FUN 60013 18,60 Volt 22,50 A 22728 U/min 419 Watt 1050 gr. FUN 60013 20,10 Volt 25,20 A 23927 U/min 507 Watt 1161 gr. FUN 60013 20,60 Volt 27,00 A 24817 U/min 556 Watt 1259 gr. FUN 60013 22,50 Volt 32,20 A 26958 U/min 725 Watt 1431 gr. I was out of batteries, i need to get 24 and 30 cell packs.... FUN 60017 8,10 Volt 10,60 A 13340 U/min 86 Watt 1700 U/Volt 302 gr. FUN 60017 10,00 Volt 14,10 A 15210 U/min 141 Watt 455 gr. FUN 60017 11,20 Volt 15,50 A 17003 U/min 174 Watt 559 gr. FUN 60017 12,10 Volt 18,20 A 18860 U/min 220 Watt 683 gr. FUN 60017 13,30 Volt 25,40 A 20688 U/min 338 Watt 806 gr. FUN 60017 16,40 Volt 33,00 A 25100 U/min 541 Watt 1208 gr. FUN 60017 18,00 Volt 38,00 A 26789 U/min 684 Watt 1387 gr. FUN 60017 19,30 Volt 43,70 A 28730 U/min 843 Watt 1591 gr. FUN 60017 19,80 Volt 47,60 A 29500 U/min 942 Watt 1650 gr. All measure with Beat50830 and 65cm cables Schuebi FUN 50024 7,70 Volt 19,90 A 17051 U/min 153 Watt 2400 U/Volt 524 gr. FUN 50024 8,90 Volt 24,70 A 18690 U/min 220 Watt 658 gr. FUN 50024 10,20 Volt 25,30 A 20004 U/min 258 Watt 757 gr. FUN 50024 12,00 Volt 38,10 A 23754 U/min 457 Watt 1040 gr. FUN 50024 12,60 Volt 41,20 A 24880 U/min 519 Watt 1142 gr. FUN 50024 13,00 Volt 46,50 A 25776 U/min 605 Watt 13,80 Volt 53,00 A 27115 U/min 731 Watt 1410 gr. FUN 60013 7 Sanyo. 8,60 Volt 4,90 A 10885 U/min 42 Watt 1300 U/Volt 207 gr. FUN 60013 8 Sanyo. 9,80 Volt 6,20 A 12866 U/min 61 Watt 287 gr. FUN 60013 11,20 Volt 8,10 A 14855 U/min 91 Watt 394 gr. FUN 60013 12,60 Volt 9,30 A 15577 U/min 117 Watt 492 gr. FUN 60013 14,50 Volt 12,10 A 18003 U/min 175 Watt 594 gr. FUN 60013 18,20 Volt 18,70 A 22223 U/min 340 Watt 921 gr. FUN 60013 18,90 Volt 19,90 A 23060 U/min 376 Watt 996 gr. FUN 60013 20,80 Volt 23,50 A 24877 U/min 489 Watt 1183 gr. FUN 60013 22,10 Volt 25,60 A 25775 U/min 566 Watt 1282 gr. FUN 60013 23,90 Volt 30,20 A 28290 U/min 722 Watt 1529 gr. FUN 60013 28,20 Volt 38,00 A 31452 U/min 1072 Watt 1920 gr. FUN 60017 7 Sanyo. 8,10 Volt 8,20 A 12780 U/min 66 Watt 1700 U/Volt 301 gr. FUN 6001710,00 Volt 12,10 A 15836 U/min 121 Watt 460 gr. FUN 60017 11,20 Volt 14,10 A 17317 U/min 158 Watt 551 gr. FUN 60017 12,10 Volt 16,30 A 18723 U/min 197 Watt 640 gr. FUN 60017 13,30 Volt 19,10 A 20306 U/min 254 Watt 751 gr. FUN 60017 16,40 Volt 28,20 A 24632 U/min 462 Watt 1105 gr. FUN 60017 18,00 Volt 33,40 A 26789 U/min 601 Watt 1332 gr. FUN 60017 19,30 Volt 39,20 A 28730 U/min 757 Watt 1526 gr. FUN 60017 19,80 Volt 40,20 A 29210 U/min 796 Watt 1593 gr. FUN 60017 21,20 Volt 46,20 A 31067 U/min 979 Watt 1871 gr. 



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We don't use zapped cells either, all our $3 CP 1700 etc cells are directly from our local Sanyo distributor (TNR)... 




Herb  Kontronik has 7 new motors within their Fun line  http://www.hoellein.com/websites_neu...untango_eu.htm
My KC F18 is using the Fun40036/Smile40612 on 10zapped CP1700's  IMO the best compromise between power and duration for typical 480MF's EDFs. If one want more power get a bigger ESC and a 40042 or 48042 will do on 10cells. So for 480MF I'd stock 40028 (better for twins), 40036 , 40042 and the same kv'd Fun480. For larger fans go with what Chris said. I'm using a 50021 i a Schubi with 1415cells. For 900+W the larger case 600series are good. Haldor www.halair.com 



Re: Kontronick suggestions
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Sport: FanDriveS combo, 40036/Smile40612 on 10CP1700's 420W peak/350W avg. (~37A) Ultimate: Fun48042 and Beat70612 on 10CP1700s (~55A) Haldor 

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