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Old Apr 23, 2011, 12:13 PM
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Josh how are you coming along with the 'pop-top'? - I can't get this one figured out, first part is easy - wall - and then i'd have thought hard rudder with a blast of power.....but that doesn't seem to work.
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Old Apr 23, 2011, 01:15 PM
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Josh how are you coming along with the 'pop-top'? - I can't get this one figured out, first part is easy - wall - and then i'd have thought hard rudder with a blast of power.....but that doesn't seem to work.

...it's a blender... so, like a normal blender (start rolling left, add burst in right rudder just before full down elevator), just get up a pile of speed and do it going up instead...

...and for giggles, do it flying flat (at recovery height, 'cuz it's hard to know which way the nose will be pointing)
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Old Apr 23, 2011, 01:36 PM
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...and for giggles, do it flying flat (at recovery height, 'cuz it's hard to know which way the nose will be pointing)
I did one last Saturday with my 51 and the gO-Rillas went wILd ! oF course, I was a griNNing eAr-2-EaR tOO
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Old Apr 26, 2011, 12:43 PM
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Would someone be willing to post a video of a 'pop-top'? It sounds like a fun maneuver and I want to know what it looks like befre I attempt it so I know weather or not I am doing it right.
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Old Apr 26, 2011, 03:02 PM
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Joe does one here at approx 17 seconds, its a turnaround manoeuvre and he comes out of it in knife edge (just cos he's too damn good! ), the standard exit is inverted.

Joe Smith Practice SEFF 2011.mpg (4 min 35 sec)
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Old Apr 26, 2011, 03:50 PM
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Joe does one here at approx 17 seconds, its a turnaround manoeuvre and he comes out of it in knife edge (just cos he's too damn good! ), the standard exit is inverted.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rR1CTzFENXY
Not really what would be considered a true "pop-top". but the basic movement is there.
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Old Apr 26, 2011, 04:30 PM
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Here is what I would call a Pop Top: starts at 27 seconds....

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...60&postcount=1
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Old Apr 26, 2011, 05:50 PM
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Yup.. that a good shot of a pop-top.

I've been working on these, and for me it seems to be a left rolling upline, then slap in some opposite rudder, down elevator, little to no throttle and top it off with some opposite aileron to keep it spinning flat.

I'm certainly no pro, so any tips or corrections to how I've been doing them is more than welcome!

Getting the plane to pop isn't too bad, its keeping it nice and flat that I find challenging, however, its a lot like a blender, and after you hit it a few times, you'll have it down pat.
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Old Apr 26, 2011, 07:04 PM
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Thanks, that isn't quite what I pictured, but it sure looks cool. I'll have to start working on that.
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Old Apr 26, 2011, 07:25 PM
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I think I pull up at full throttle, add full right rudder and full left aileron and full down elevator all at the same time. I hold the right rudder in while letting off the throttle. As soon as the right stick hits the top left corner (Full left aileron and full down elevator) I quickly pull the aileron back to neutral and let off on down elevator. It is a little different with different planes, but that is pretty much how I do it. And yes it is basicall a blender while doing an up line. REALLY FUN
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Old Apr 27, 2011, 02:44 AM
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Not really what would be considered a true "pop-top". but the basic movement is there.
Your right, I got confused thinking the 'pop top' exited inverted and was purely a turnaround manoeuvre, with one rudder turn at the top to pull the airplane around....looks like I have 2 new manoeuvres to try out!
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Old Apr 30, 2011, 04:26 PM
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Finally I understand how to do this. Now I'll have to practice. Thanks for bringing up the topic. This move has been evading me for a long time.
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Old Jun 22, 2011, 09:51 AM
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BoneDoc,

Thanks for the great instructional videos. Your "overlay" view makes it much easier to watch and learn. Being new to 3D, I've subscribed to this thread so I can watch them repeatedly and apply your techniques to my simulator and scratch built Extra 300. So far my repairs have been minimal as I take baby steps to get the hang of these skilled maneuvers.

Nice job!

And huge thanks to your wife as well!

Steve
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Old Jun 23, 2011, 01:14 AM
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Congrats Steve. I'm glad you're having fun .

My apology for not putting this one out earlier, but here's another one on the basics of rolling harrier.

BoneDoc's 3D Clinic: Rolling Harrier 101
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Old Jun 23, 2011, 01:18 AM
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we want a rolling figure 8 loop video!
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