F-16 Fighting Falcon ARF - Page 4

Philld · Sep 25, 2008, 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AtTheMet

Philld,

Interesting that the FM works with the factory ESC. The ferrite ring should have been a giveaway. I never tried that since I use DX6i. After eliminating all other possibilities with the glitch, I just replaced the ESC and it now works great

After several flights, I noticed one of me elevator linkages was actually BENT (cheap and too small wire rod and clevis). Won't happen now

Yeah, I guess I'll take the plunge and replace the ESC....Which one did you get?

AtTheMet · Sep 25, 2008, 12:31 PM

Philld,

I had a new Electrifly ss-45 amp that I had tried in another plane. I swapped it out because it didn't have a programmable soft-start. It works great in the F-16 though.
My personal choice is Castle Creations. A little more $$$ but made in USA and definitely worth it to me.

fh64_lucky,

You said you got the hopped-up version. Did the Enerland battery fit in the cockpit compartment or did you have to rig it ? Also is it a big speed jump from the stock 70mm ?

Oh and thanks to ARF Guy for the tip on fixing the dings in the foam. Nice.

fh64_lucky · Sep 25, 2008, 12:49 PM

Please read thread in EDF foamy jets.
I belly land and hand launch.I posted pictures,video and as much info to help anyone else that I could think about....Joe

AtTheMet · Sep 25, 2008, 12:52 PM

Joe,

(Dumb question here)

On the other thread you said you found the CG at 95mm.

Is that measured from the leading wing edge closest to the fuselage ?

fh64_lucky · Sep 25, 2008, 01:06 PM

Yes sir.I am now at 98mm back from that spot,and I will leave mine there.
90-95mm back is good to go with most pilots

mjbennett9 · Sep 25, 2008, 02:12 PM

I returned mine. I'll search for a kit without the electronics. I found a few companies out there and there are some new F16's coming on the market in two weeks. Approx. $170 to $250 for arf (retracts included), then add in your own electronics.

I can't justify $250 only to yank out ESC at a minimum, and motor/fan is suspect as well. That's approx. $100 in parts (according to their parts list). If I could buy plane without those items for $150, then it would be great deal and I'd have money to buy the upgrade. :-)

Michael

mike2663 · Sep 25, 2008, 05:00 PM

I'm at 90mm from the leading edge and feel it needs another 5mm next time out. I've had no issues at all with any of the stock parts. I did balance the fan but that was it. As far as Hobby Lobby's customer service they have always been more than fair in all my dealing with them. You really can't fault them for cheap push rods and clevises that the norm in the ARF age. Mike

fh64_lucky · Sep 25, 2008, 06:12 PM

I had a brand new Thunder Power 22c 4500 lipo in mine....
69 amps 969 amps.....thats pretty good.
I just got a battery from Brian here on forums (punkindrublik )
Tenergy 4450 25c 4s lipo..results
69.9 amps
1040 watts!!!!!! Just a battery change,and its same size and weight of my other one.Little cheaper cost too...
Check out his batteries if you want a good deal on a great battery! Joe

Hawaiian Flyin · Sep 26, 2008, 01:58 AM

I just got mine put together. Have'nt tried to fly it yet. Have the same glitching problem at about half throttle and above. Guess I'll have to order a good ESC for this thing. See a lot of guys going with the CG at 90-95mm. Should I balance mine at that point for the first flights? Thanks for any tips guys! Aloha!

fh64_lucky · Sep 26, 2008, 02:41 AM

90mm to start.Go to Hobby City and buy the 80 amp plush ESC for 35 bucks!It has a built in BEC,and mine along with many others works great!

Philld · Sep 26, 2008, 05:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hawaiian Flyin

I just got mine put together. Have'nt tried to fly it yet. Have the same glitching problem at about half throttle and above. Guess I'll have to order a good ESC for this thing. See a lot of guys going with the CG at 90-95mm. Should I balance mine at that point for the first flights? Thanks for any tips guys! Aloha!

Yes, take my advice. Replace the speed controller!. After sacrificing a hot Camo version F5 and wrecking an F16, I finally replaced the speed controller and the glitching appears to have left when doing my ground checks. I'll maiden my "Frankenstein" version of the F16 this morning. I'm sure that HL now has enough reports of this issue. I'll submit my experience to them after this flight attempt. Hot looking and performing planes but who'd want to buy a brand new car when you have to replace the transmission in order to drive it.

mjbennett9 · Sep 26, 2008, 09:28 AM

All, please do call hobby lobby to let them know. They told me that they have very little issues reported on these and think we are the minority. Also, HL stands behind their products for 90 days. Philld, call them and most likely you will get both models replaced!

Hawaiian Flyin · Sep 26, 2008, 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fh64_lucky

90mm to start.Go to Hobby City and buy the 80 amp plush ESC for 35 bucks!It has a built in BEC,and mine along with many others works great!

Thanks for the help. Checked the Hobby City site and the 80 amp esc goes for 55 bucks. Do I really need an 80 amp? See a few guys using a 45 amp esc and seems to work for them. I also had a H/L Swiss F5 that totaled on the second flight. Would'nt turn left or right. lost it over a hill. Found the wreckage, no survivors! Thought it was possible pilot error but now I may be thinking it may have had similar glitching problems.

tshero · Sep 26, 2008, 07:59 PM

Quick question.
Check GC with the plane upright or upside down. Going to start putting mine together this weekend with a new ESC and upgrades to linkages and stuff.

Hawaiian Flyin · Sep 26, 2008, 08:40 PM

I have a Kyosho F 16 that I fly and it flies great. I balanced it upright so I guess thats how I would balance this one.

Sep 25, 2008, 05:00 PM	#52
mike2663 Hey Guys, Watch This....... Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: El Paso Posts: 973	I'm at 90mm from the leading edge and feel it needs another 5mm next time out. I've had no issues at all with any of the stock parts. I did balance the fan but that was it. As far as Hobby Lobby's customer service they have always been more than fair in all my dealing with them. You really can't fault them for cheap push rods and clevises that the norm in the ARF age. Mike Attached Thumbnails 78.8 KB · Views: 82 93.2 KB · Views: 94

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Sep 25, 2008, 12:31 PM	#47
AtTheMet Dangerous with CA Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: B'ham, AL Posts: 92	Philld, I had a new Electrifly ss-45 amp that I had tried in another plane. I swapped it out because it didn't have a programmable soft-start. It works great in the F-16 though. My personal choice is Castle Creations. A little more $$$ but made in USA and definitely worth it to me. fh64_lucky, You said you got the hopped-up version. Did the Enerland battery fit in the cockpit compartment or did you have to rig it ? Also is it a big speed jump from the stock 70mm ? Oh and thanks to ARF Guy for the tip on fixing the dings in the foam. Nice.

Sep 25, 2008, 12:49 PM	#48
fh64_lucky Hey ya'll,watch this! Join Date: May 2005 Location: Lewisville,Tx Go Farmers!!! Posts: 1,717	Please read thread in EDF foamy jets. I belly land and hand launch.I posted pictures,video and as much info to help anyone else that I could think about....Joe

Sep 25, 2008, 12:52 PM	#49
AtTheMet Dangerous with CA Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: B'ham, AL Posts: 92	Joe, (Dumb question here) On the other thread you said you found the CG at 95mm. Is that measured from the leading wing edge closest to the fuselage ?

Sep 25, 2008, 01:06 PM	#50
fh64_lucky Hey ya'll,watch this! Join Date: May 2005 Location: Lewisville,Tx Go Farmers!!! Posts: 1,717	Yes sir.I am now at 98mm back from that spot,and I will leave mine there. 90-95mm back is good to go with most pilots

Sep 25, 2008, 02:12 PM	#51
mjbennett9 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 563	I returned mine. I'll search for a kit without the electronics. I found a few companies out there and there are some new F16's coming on the market in two weeks. Approx. $170 to $250 for arf (retracts included), then add in your own electronics. I can't justify $250 only to yank out ESC at a minimum, and motor/fan is suspect as well. That's approx. $100 in parts (according to their parts list). If I could buy plane without those items for $150, then it would be great deal and I'd have money to buy the upgrade. :-) Michael

Sep 25, 2008, 06:12 PM	#53
fh64_lucky Hey ya'll,watch this! Join Date: May 2005 Location: Lewisville,Tx Go Farmers!!! Posts: 1,717	I had a brand new Thunder Power 22c 4500 lipo in mine.... 69 amps 969 amps.....thats pretty good. I just got a battery from Brian here on forums (punkindrublik ) Tenergy 4450 25c 4s lipo..results 69.9 amps 1040 watts!!!!!! Just a battery change,and its same size and weight of my other one.Little cheaper cost too... Check out his batteries if you want a good deal on a great battery! Joe

Sep 26, 2008, 01:58 AM	#54
Hawaiian Flyin Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Maui, Hawaii Posts: 75	I just got mine put together. Have'nt tried to fly it yet. Have the same glitching problem at about half throttle and above. Guess I'll have to order a good ESC for this thing. See a lot of guys going with the CG at 90-95mm. Should I balance mine at that point for the first flights? Thanks for any tips guys! Aloha!

Sep 26, 2008, 02:41 AM	#55
fh64_lucky Hey ya'll,watch this! Join Date: May 2005 Location: Lewisville,Tx Go Farmers!!! Posts: 1,717	90mm to start.Go to Hobby City and buy the 80 amp plush ESC for 35 bucks!It has a built in BEC,and mine along with many others works great!

Sep 26, 2008, 09:28 AM	#57
mjbennett9 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 563	All, please do call hobby lobby to let them know. They told me that they have very little issues reported on these and think we are the minority. Also, HL stands behind their products for 90 days. Philld, call them and most likely you will get both models replaced!

Sep 26, 2008, 07:59 PM	#59
tshero Never Satisfied!! Join Date: May 2008 Location: Scottsville, NY Posts: 488	Quick question. Check GC with the plane upright or upside down. Going to start putting mine together this weekend with a new ESC and upgrades to linkages and stuff.

Sep 26, 2008, 08:40 PM	#60
Hawaiian Flyin Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Maui, Hawaii Posts: 75	I have a Kyosho F 16 that I fly and it flies great. I balanced it upright so I guess thats how I would balance this one.