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Old Jul 31, 2008, 11:18 AM
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Back to gliders after 13 year break

hi all.And greetings from helsinki finland.
my name's chris.dunno what made me leave this great hobby.i guess i got to pursue other things.anyhow after a long long pause im back and hooked.

im almost done building my spirit 2m. has gone well, a bit slow.Must admit the manual is pritty shite and quite vague at times.Keeps you wondering, did i do this right now? and loads of typos also in the grammer.not very pro!

i had so planned to include spoilers in this spirit, but now at last minute, i decided not to.i guessed it must make it a pain everytime you go flying to have to hook up the cables to the wings and servo each time you take off the wing. Having also not been flying for a long long time, i think i best take it easy and learn how to do it again. i was about 15 when i quit the hobby.
perhaps my next plane that i build will have spoilers then.probably not a real must anyhow for the spirit.

while in germany just awhile ago i bought the DG-1000 rc scale sail plane.i think i will train first on the spirit.im guessing the dg-1000 is more sleek and a faster flying sailplane surely.

Hope to get my spirit flying within the next 2-3 weeks.Id like to enjoy august and september here in finland, before it goes all winter on me.

ordered a high start from Tower the other day. sure will be abit nerve wracking to shoot the aircraft up first time..probably no sudden movements though ehh..nice and easy.

Anyhow i wont go on any longer...but nice to meet you all.

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Old Jul 31, 2008, 12:05 PM
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Spoilers are great for getting out of thermals and increasing the rate of descent for landing in a small area.
If you have adequate space to land in you will be fine without them.
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Old Jul 31, 2008, 03:08 PM
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Welcome back! I fly a Spirit 2m RES and the spoilers are wonderful. The way mine is rigged it only takes a couple seconds to hook in the cable. The biggest hasel is banding the wings on, not the spoiler hooks. If you reconsider the spoilers, I have a great configuration that works flawlessly and would be happy to share it with you.

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Old Jul 31, 2008, 03:15 PM
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Welcome Back

I have quit and come back a number of times. I can just never stay awy on a permanent basis. .. Just something about soaring and friends. The nicest folks are the in soaring family. Brian
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Old Jul 31, 2008, 03:32 PM
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hey guys thanks for the hellos. Ahh darn you now i just sealed up my wing panels, so looks like no spoliers on this baby anymore. just have the fuselage to go. You know dunno if any of you with a finnished spirit may have some close up "completed" shots of your plane, it might help me to see, and make the rest of my building a little easier, such as where you have put servos and so on. Having done this a lot earlier im sure my old memories will come back. But nice anyhow to see your birds.
I think i will add spoliers to next plane..

im really considering the Minimoa from here..just love that plane.Unfortunately these are arf's i think..i guess a bit hard to balsa make some of these, especially fuselage design etc

http://shop.strato.de/epages/6131678...egories/Segler

dunno if there are any cool pure balsa kits of like older style gliders.I like glider kits with canopys. Sophisticated Lady still isnt a bad look plane, but i have built 2 i think already back when i was a kid.
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Old Jul 31, 2008, 03:33 PM
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Sorry i think my link wasent all that clear..but this sure is a beauty..i guess its balsa made wings and fiberglass fuselage. and price isnt all that bad either.
http://shop.strato.de/WebRoot/Store1...Goeppingen.jpg
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Old Jul 31, 2008, 03:49 PM
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The best place to buy wood sailplanes is from Skybench Aerotech www.skybench.com . There are many Oly III's being built over the globe right now...got one myself. Ray has lots of great designs and the kits are super...just FYI
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Old Jul 31, 2008, 03:53 PM
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hey dwells..i actually just had a sudden after thought..im thinking, maybe..maybe is it still possible to add in the spoilers.im basically at the point where i have sheeted up the leading edge of both wings, and put sheeting on the inner wing bits.so i have closed off that area.Perhaps making it darn hard to do the spoliers still??? i did buy the wing servo tube + wire. and i guess one needs to drill.i mean i have a pritty good idea how it goes. but im just thinking that now, at this point in time, would it still be worthwhile to add the spoilers.it does seem like a pritty big job, at least with very minimal instructions on the manual. So i had thought, i wana get out and fly this baby, and perhaps save myself 2 weeks of extra hastle with spoilers. this has been a pritty slow plane coming, had some neck problems this summer, so building wasent as intense and im about a month behind schedule.But let me know what you think Mr.Dwells..id rather not start cutting up and ripping things apart to get those spoiler tubes in =)
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Old Jul 31, 2008, 03:59 PM
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oh yea hey thanks mister wells very much for this. i have indeed been to this site before.i actually emailed them, dont think i ever got a reply.but yeah for sure, need to keep this one in mind. will have to order a kit from there. i live in finland myself.might cost 30 euro or so for mail order. nice to see some of these old style kits coming back. such a shame to see that ARF's are taking over the world =)
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Old Jul 31, 2008, 04:11 PM
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ARF's are a quick way to get stick time. My Spirit is an ARF and was built very well. There are some mods to the Spirit that will make it a better flyer. Please review this page http://www.charlesriverrc.org/articl...spiritmods.htm . If you've already sheeted the wings, it's not worth ripping it apart for the spoilers but any of these other mods that are not too late to incorporate will give you a more stable plane. There is also a recent build log on the SP2m.
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Old Jul 31, 2008, 04:41 PM
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ahh many thanks for this link. you know throughout the building of the wing i kept wondering why the whole leading edge was not to be sheeted. seems very weird.i think maybe while i still can, i should at least sheet the outer leading edge panels of the wing..funny the plans dont call for this.
you would think spirit could update their manuals a little ehh with some of these clearly mistakes.

i think perhaps rather than having to carve 1/32" out of each spar back to make sheeting fit, i will just use some balsa filler, thank god for that and sand and try to make a smooth surface.balsa filler works like a charm. didnt have that back in 1989! =)
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Old Aug 01, 2008, 10:20 AM
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boy i tell you its sure gonna be a tight fit for the wing joiner for my spirit.
must say i have seen better joiners, this one seems a little silly..
its sure gonna be tight. and looks like i have 1 1/16th ply left over..anytime you have something extra you think, "what did i do wrong"
but might take some heavy sanding to get this wing joiner to fit.
im just wondering, am i supposed to glue the joiner into one of the wings.Obviously i built the removable wings option.
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Old Aug 01, 2008, 11:50 AM
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IMHO, I would'nt glue the joiner to the wing as they are prone to breaking or stress fracture on hard landing. I would however use it to make a template so you can have a few on hand in case of any harsh landings.
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Old Aug 01, 2008, 12:31 PM
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Mimimoa kits

bubbly1, if you like Minimoas, and also like building, look here :

Krick Modelltechnik (http://www.krick-modell.de/frameset.html ) :
1:5 Minimoa, 3.4 m span, all wood kit, die cut parts : http://www.krick-modell.de/shop_fach...tailseite.asp?

CNC Modellbautechnik Bayer (www.cnc.modellbautechnik.de )
1:3 Minimoa, all wood kit, cnc-router cut parts : http://www.cnc-modellbautechnik.de/h...e/minimoa.html
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Old Aug 01, 2008, 04:02 PM
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all praise be to allah

good lord...love that minimoa...nice stuff..have to save all these links.
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