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Old Jul 28, 2008, 10:25 AM
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Why do people bling out Heli's before they can fly them properly?

I always like to take a look in the for sale section under the Electric Helis category, I'm always interested to see what people are selling. I see so many posts of people selling heavily modified RTFs like Kings and even a few Trex types with lots of CNC bling and a disclaimer that they have never flown it yet or it only had a few test hovers, etc. I saw one for-sale post where the heli was super modified, and it still had the training gear attached!! I thought this was so funny to see all these expensive upgrades sitting on the heli with TRAINING GEAR still attached!!! Is all that CNC stuff going to help hover that bird better than the stock plastic parts at this point? If you don't even know how the heli flys before you do any of this work on it, how would you know if what you installed is installed properly and working any better that stock?? Why do people sink so much into modifications when their skill level is not even past basic hovering yet? I just think it's so silly, are these parts going to make them instantly better pilots? Then the harsh reality sets in that it's not how much you spend on upgrades, it's the magic you have in your thumbs that will help you to fly better, so they just bail out and try to sell? I'm sorry, I just felt like a little rant today.
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Old Jul 28, 2008, 10:30 AM
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wait till they experience their first crash during their first flight of their fully blinged heli. take the calc out and do the math. hehehe
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Old Jul 28, 2008, 10:31 AM
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Old Jul 28, 2008, 10:38 AM
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Seems like a lot of people never get the heli set up right when they get it, so they keep installing parts hoping it will fly. Of course, if you don't know how to set the damn thing up in the first place, why are you working on it?
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Old Jul 28, 2008, 10:38 AM
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I can understand things like brushless upgrades (king and suchlike) and hh gyros because they make it easier to fly/ hover, but alloy and carbon whats the point?.until your past the crashing stage it seems a waste of money
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Old Jul 28, 2008, 10:42 AM
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I can understand things like brushless upgrades (king and suchlike) and hh gyros because they make it easier to fly/ hover, but alloy and carbon whats the point?.until your past the crashing stage it seems a waste of money
totally agree. one more thing, CNC makes the heli precise and responsive but that would be too responsive on a newbie's stick skills
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Old Jul 28, 2008, 11:10 AM
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I bought a used blade cp pro that is blinged out to the gill....poor guy never had a chance to fly it..Im just going to use it for parts now..bought it for 120.00
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Old Jul 28, 2008, 11:22 AM
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I feel the same way. I see this kind of thing all the time, also I think its funny how some people try to make the heli "crash proof "...LOL well if they learned how to fly it they wouldnt crash it. both my heli are bone stock and I fly the stuff out of em.
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Old Jul 28, 2008, 12:13 PM
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Come on guys! We all know why 'we' like to buy cool parts for our heli's. They're cool!

Sure, newbies want charms against the heli-eating ground monster. (Over a year ago I searched for the 'magic set up' for the Blade CP Pro. The magic turns out to be in the way I hold the sticks.) But that doesn't mean that beautifully engineered CNC and CF parts don't have a cachet. At least to me they do.
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Old Jul 28, 2008, 12:24 PM
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we all love the bling were just saying learn to fly first then bling it out thats all.
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Old Jul 28, 2008, 12:35 PM
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I'd have to agree with the sentiment here.. and I am not saying that because I have some attitude about noobs.

I say it because I was a bling'aholic when I started. I probably dumped $400-500 into a HB CP2.. and it didn't really fly better at all.

Nubs should realize that its best to fly a cheap decent performer to get orientation.. then go ahead for a better heli.

Add up the cost of what you want for bling.. it may be that a T-rex is what you should buy.

In the end a lighter heli is a better heli!
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Old Jul 28, 2008, 12:40 PM
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Learning what and when to mod your heli is as much a part of the learning process as flying.
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Old Jul 28, 2008, 01:36 PM
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Not all is bling !
IMHO its a qstn of taste also (but i prefer the essential even if it looks like bling) ,its a little like cars as in some buy a car and start to bling it up etc but if you drive badly it wont change much.
Perso im not bling orientated but i would buy certain pieces to help out and give me the best chances of being able to learn to fly ,because end of the day we can put anything on the heli but you stilll have to learn to fly. As an example one of my first 'bling' items was the micro heli swash for the hbk2 and it was a good improvement. I suppose a lot of us buy stuff and not make the most of it i am guilty of that too i still have a guitar and ampli that i cant get a note out off lmao.
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Old Jul 28, 2008, 02:11 PM
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i look at it much like you do .. blinging for blingings sake is somthing people just enjoy doing and it can make it more enjoyable to fly with some new sweet looking parts but changing things before you know how things work is asking for trouble .. and imo it IS just like cars or anything else .. simply putting on an air cleaner and loud exaust isnt going to make your car better .. just louder with a couple of unforeseen problems mixed in like not being able to hear your stereo and the aircleaner needing changing more often .. so imo if u realy want to improve on a stock machine it has to be an all-out and total effort to the whole machine and tuned according to your advanced knowledge of how it works .. otherwise your most likely messing up and causing yourself problems by throwing one or two upgrades at an ailing heli trying to make it 'better' or work right ..
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Old Jul 28, 2008, 02:18 PM
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im not a newb.. but i really like bling.. the more the better.. every heli i own is all cnc and CF/GF the only plastic is in the servos and skids....(exept my fp) when i was learning... i realized that just switching to a cnc head made the bird more crash proof and fly better... cnc is 10x better than plastic... and the heli really does fly better with it!
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