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Old Feb 07, 2009, 08:46 PM
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Heck, don't PM the info on the new tips... inquiring minds want to know...

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Old Feb 07, 2009, 08:53 PM
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I am sure Bob will post it here for all. Just when I thought I have the ultimate TD machine already...

Now I am REALLY glad I did the RDS thing. Just 2 pockets for me .

Looking forward to it.
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Old Feb 07, 2009, 09:28 PM
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Xplorer

Howdy,
I'll have more info when it's available. Don't hold your breath, we already got a world class plane. But, I understand, more is better!

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Old Feb 08, 2009, 02:01 AM
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As I was told version with longer tips will be good especialy for very calm conditions e.g. early morning flights and late evening ones.

For normal flying days it will probably be too light. As Bro wrote we already now have a great plane

The whole thing is in testing phase, so probably it will take some time to get it into production.

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Old Feb 09, 2009, 06:10 AM
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Hi,

from begining of december there is longer tips for Xplorer (3,8m).
Only 6 pairs was maked to be tryed on fligth.
Here is Arijan Hucaljuk from Croatia with Xplorers.
I still not check it on dead air but I have 2 days flying time in windy conditions
5-7 m/s with 1880 g V-tail Xplorer LT (longer tips) and I'm happy.
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Old Feb 09, 2009, 12:18 PM
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@ Sotir

AUW only 1880g or is it empty weight??

I am just building a regular D-box X tail one and I estimate the AUW to be around 2000g.

Which servos do you use for elevator and rudder?
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Old Feb 09, 2009, 12:22 PM
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Hello, Sotir-

My question is:

Does the CG stay in the same place with the longer tips??

And, what CG do YOU prefer on the Xplorer?

Thanks,
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Old Feb 09, 2009, 01:16 PM
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Silvestert,

I think 2000 may be a bit low. The d-box version seems to be coming in very close to 72 oz.

JR368 on the rudder and 3421 on the elevator is a popular combination. If you read through this whole thread it will give you other options and a whole lot of information that will help you in your building.

Good luck.

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Old Feb 09, 2009, 01:55 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sotir
Hi,

from begining of december there is longer tips for Xplorer (3,8m).
Only 6 pairs was maked to be tryed on fligth.
Here is Arijan Hucaljuk from Croatia with Xplorers.
I still not check it on dead air but I have 2 days flying time in windy conditions
5-7 m/s with 1880 g V-tail Xplorer LT (longer tips) and I'm happy.

Id be all over those wing tips....get me a set or two
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Old Feb 09, 2009, 02:17 PM
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Hi,
I`m Filip

The last weekend I practise with my new Explorer 3.80m
The weather wasn`t so good,it was windy.I want to tell you this plane is made exactly for that windy time.It fight the way successfully.
My model is with CG 110mm 2010gr.
I try with balast 440gr it was very good too.

It has a great launch.
I got to tell you that this is wonderful model,i love it.
It is very easy to control it on landing.

I am too young and I control it not long ago and make a big difference among the others.

I wish everyone has this plane.

Good Luck!
Take Care!
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Old Feb 09, 2009, 02:21 PM
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Hi, Filip-

Have you flown the plane with the tips for a 3500mm span??

If yes, does the CG move from the 110mm CG with the 3800mm span tips?

Thank you for your information.

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Old Feb 09, 2009, 02:42 PM
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Hi

I fly X-tail with 106 mm CG and 104 mm for V-tail. It's a little forward but this are my confort settings. Longer tips shift CG 1-1,5 mm backward.
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Old Feb 09, 2009, 02:54 PM
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from begining of december there is longer tips for Xplorer (3,8m).
Hi Sotir
what is the difference in weight between a short tip and XXL tip?
and the difference of the total area?
thanks
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Old Feb 09, 2009, 03:08 PM
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What I would like to know is, how much does each tip weigh from the factory without any servo installs or other mods?

Target, I am sure you know already, but what I did was put the CG at 106 and add about 1/4oz lead to boom and slide it back an inch at a time. I am currently at 106.5mm and really like it there, but have not got enough time on it yet with the throws to take it back some more...

110mm cg with ballast and windy conditions seems pretty far back to me, but my thumbs aren't what they used to be . The back edge of my hook is 110mm as detailed previously.

I wish the rain would stop so I can get more practiced on it. Maybe tomorrow a ELDO.
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Old Feb 09, 2009, 03:11 PM
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JR368 on the rudder and 3421 on the elevator is a popular combination. If you read through this whole thread it will give you other options and a whole lot of information that will help you in your building.
I have read the whole 60 pages of this thread...

2000g AUW was just an estimate. Probably it will be few grams more. So if my conversion is ok, it will be close to 72 oz.

Here in Europe, at least for my personal taste JR servos are not standard ones. We have Graupner, which is similar to JR and Futaba.

I do not want to order JR servos from far away, because I want to use ones I can get my hands on fast if needed.

Here (in Slovenia) a popular option is Futaba 3150 for wings, 3155 for elevator and some lightweight servo for rudder.

I was looking for other available options nearby.

@ Sotir

CG at 106mm for X tail should be a sweet spot as I was told...
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