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Old Jan 19, 2009, 09:59 PM
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I use clear sign vinyl to tape my servo covers on, works great and easy to remove if need be.

The way vinyl comes, it's easy to tape the cover down with one single piece, if you cut out the pattern.

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Old Jan 19, 2009, 10:39 PM
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I use clear sign vinyl to tape my servo covers on, works great and easy to remove if need be.

The way vinyl comes, it's easy to tape the cover down with one single piece, if you cut out the pattern.

dave
Hehehe. I just had one of our club members cut me a bunch in appropriate colors, square and round.
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Old Jan 19, 2009, 11:07 PM
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Well, I have a grab bag of opinions, none too conclusive, though.....

I have time; I haven't picked up the plane yet.....


Thanks for all the feed back to this question.

T
Target,
i am in the same boat as you are. i dont have the bird yet, but i am figuring out what servos i will be running.

so far this is my proposed setup (JR's all around):
E-> DS3421SA
R-> DS368MG
A-> DS368MG
F-> DS3421MG

will the wing allow the 368's and 3421's to lie flush or is there not enough room in the wing for these servos?

any recommendations or suggestions?

i am planning on using the bigger servos for the flaps since on the Xplorer, the flaps are huge and need a little extra power, not for holding power, but more strength for inadvertent flap dragging and shock during dorking. i would like to use the DS368MG's on the flaps but the 3421's are a little tougher and bigger.

so, lay it on my guys. i would love to get this hammered out sooner rather than later.
cheers
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Old Jan 19, 2009, 11:09 PM
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I use clear sign vinyl to tape my servo covers on, works great and easy to remove if need be.

The way vinyl comes, it's easy to tape the cover down with one single piece, if you cut out the pattern.

dave
thats a great idea. i think i will start adopting that technique. thanks, Dave.
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Old Jan 19, 2009, 11:27 PM
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thats a great idea. i think i will start adopting that technique. thanks, Dave.
after you cut out your pattern, you can apply a clear transfer material over your pattern/vinyl..

this makes it easy to apply the vinyl in the right place.

you can get this transfer material at the sign shop.
not sure if thats the correct name or not, but they will know what it is and have it.

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Old Jan 19, 2009, 11:41 PM
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sign vinyl is also good for added a new color to a canopy.

the orange Tomohawk came with a orange canopy and i changed that to black, for a example.

the other two pics are a AVA & a Supra, which both have nose cones, but i added some fake canopies to these, just for a different look.

dave www.rc-builds.com
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Old Jan 20, 2009, 01:55 AM
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will the wing allow the 368's and 3421's to lie flush or is there not enough room in the wing for these servos?
paul
368 will only fit in ail if you slide it under the skin. With the mounting tabs intact, you need to slide it til it butts up against the spar to clear the servo cover. No go on Greening mounts with 368.

For flaps both will fit, but 3421 need slight mod per Dave Hauch.
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Old Jan 20, 2009, 05:47 AM
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Dave's comments on the 3421/Greening frames install:

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...&postcount=285
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...&postcount=287
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...&postcount=288

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Old Jan 20, 2009, 08:09 AM
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I used this FUTABA 9650 nylon geared on an elevator and ripped some teeth entering the zoom:

Futaba Data sheet looked very promising:
Width: 15mm
Height: 28.6mm
Weight: .9oz (26g)
Can be used with 1/12 or 1/18 scale vehicles and electric helicopters
SPEED: .14 sec/60 @ 4.8V
.11 sec/60 @ 6V
TORQUE: 3.6 kg-cm @ 4.8V (50 oz-in @ 4.8V)
4.5 kg-cm @ 6V (62.5 oz-in @ 6.0V)
I pushed it hard but no abuse.
New (cheap) nylons inside and going for rudder usage.
Dunno about the JR-SA mentioned, but nylon gives me some itch after my experience
Cheers, Jurgen.
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Old Jan 20, 2009, 09:12 AM
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9650s have natoriously weak geartrains.
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Old Jan 20, 2009, 09:21 AM
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I'm thinking that I'd like to have two wide white bands on the bottom of the wing at each end of the center panel. Would there be anything wrong in just using paint? Dave, where do you get the sign vinyl from? I was also thinking of using Monokote trim w/ adhesive backing (I don't think I want to iron on regular Monokote), but I'm thinking that might be prone to leaving bubbles.

BTW, with the cold weather here my Xplorer flies great in my living room floor, not very high launches, but can really nail the landing spot on
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Old Jan 20, 2009, 09:32 AM
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I notice after TLs post about the 3421 flap servo failing the focus has been on the servo failure aspect of his flight that day. Id be much more concerned about the 2.4 lockout they experienced that may have resulted in the plane being brought from altitude in a hurry? Whats up with the 2.4 lockout anyway? I want to switch over to 2.4 but when I read stuff like that makes me nervous.
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Old Jan 20, 2009, 09:39 AM
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I think I better go with the standard 3421, just to be safe.
If it gets sloppy, I can always swap it out for an SA or one of the other 34 series servos.

Thanks for the post Jurgen.

Regards,
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Old Jan 20, 2009, 09:44 AM
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Target,

Smart Move.

See Ya,

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Old Jan 20, 2009, 09:51 AM
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What do you guys use for attaching the servo covers in a semi-permanent fashion. I was considering clear silicone... but whudda I know?

Jack
Double sided tape ... no tape visible ... not even with the eye spot on.
And u will be amased how strong the servo covers are attached. I use it all the way round the servo cover ... just as wide as the overlap.

Greetz Tim
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