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Old Jul 11, 2008, 06:07 PM
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No V Tails Div. of Blue Plaid Squadron

This is now the thread for the Blue Plaid Squadron-No V Tail Division. I'm Bob in Seattle, Pres., Foam Crusher, V.P. and Windependence, Sec / Tres. Here is our logo. So are we the only 3 people in the world who don't fly V Tails ?

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Old Jul 11, 2008, 06:30 PM
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Well, we know Captain Kirk won't be able to join, will he Bob?
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Old Jul 11, 2008, 07:24 PM
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Well, we know Captain Kirk won't be able to join, will he Bob?
HI Nick,

Well, it's not a perfect world. I still think those things on the ship are engine struts and not tail componets. Oh well. The Klingons and Romulans could join.

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Old Jul 11, 2008, 07:44 PM
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The Klingons and Romulans could join.

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They probably have. (cloaked)
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Old Jul 11, 2008, 08:06 PM
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HI Ralph,

How could I have forgotten the cloaking devise !!! Do we need to go to "Red Alert"

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Old Jul 11, 2008, 08:16 PM
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Well, we know Captain Kirk won't be able to join, will he Bob?
good one

I've landed in to many cow pastures to not fly a V. Since I don't happen to have a V in the stable at the moment, it's hand catch time. Live long and prosper..
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Old Jul 11, 2008, 08:41 PM
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Hay 66,

That IS one aspect I never really thought about. Cow pies and sub-rudders don't mix to well. HUHuuuuhhhh !!!!!
The hand catch is a very fine art. I've never been able to (A) get the plane that close, and (B) know for sure that I can grab it and hang on to it !!!

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Old Jul 11, 2008, 09:06 PM
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President of Vise....err Vice checking.

The nice thing about having only X-tails in the hanger is that you don't have to try and figure out how to do elevator compensation, throttle, spoiler, and flap mixes on top of that odd ball V-tail mix. Most Tx manuals show all the trick things with a X-tail.

Yes, I know that Tx's have built in V-tail mixes, but all the fancy stuff has to be converted or kludged when working with a V-tail....even my highly programmable Multiplex EVO-9, so write me down in the list of the permanently converted.

If V-tails are so great, why doesn't Boeing use them?

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Old Jul 11, 2008, 09:11 PM
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Old Jul 11, 2008, 09:35 PM
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If V-tails are so great, why doesn't Boeing use them?
They don't land in cow pastures either..
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Old Jul 11, 2008, 09:53 PM
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If V-tails are so great, why doesn't Boeing use them?

FC
Sorry crusher...
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Old Jul 11, 2008, 10:01 PM
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OK DogFly, we will have a board meeting and let you know.

Andy, that's super funny.

Nick your right, we do use them.

I'm so glad I started this thread. Look at all the fun were having.

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Old Jul 11, 2008, 10:32 PM
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I've always been a cruciform tail man myself, however I'm venturing into new territory on this one - CV made me do it! I'm going v-tail, and I'll report back on how I like it or not.

Now if Captain shows up and tries to convert me to getting the tail to go first, that's another story! Need to think on that one some more...definitely!

Rob
they don't land in cow pastures - nice.
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Old Jul 11, 2008, 10:52 PM
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Sorry crusher...
Never seen that one.

Just like when our political leaders are confronted with a reality they don't like so they ignore the data, I will say, "That's an experimental plane and obviously will never see production."

From the Boeing webpage referring to the X-32A, "Although not selected for full-scale development of the JSF, Boeing viewed its involvement in the competition as a strategic investment. The program yielded many advances in stealth technology and design and manufacturing methods."

All kidding aside, there are plenty of V-tail supersonic planes, and even a few subsonic ones, particularly now with the emphasis on stealth technology that almost demands a lifting body design. But, as Don has pointed out, the primary differences in performance between the tail designs are minor....at least with balsa stick models. V-tails never made it big in civil aviation due to materials strength and manufacturing issues. When scaling things up and down, materials do not always behave as expected.

A V-tail would probably prevent some landing rash where I fly, but the primary reason I don't do V-tails is all the issues with Tx programming....and I think they look ugly

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Old Jul 11, 2008, 11:07 PM
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All in good fun FC. Actually the reason I don't use them is the antispin characteristics, but mainly because they're a pain to store and transport. It's pretty easy to make a conventional stab bolt on, but Vs are a pain in the proverbial.

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