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Old Jan 29, 2003, 07:40 PM
Edina Model Yacht Club
Bloomington MN
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What's Your Winter Project?

I am in the process of scratch building a "Monterey Bay" fishing boat. Am working from photos only, no plans. The model is 42 inches long with a beam of 9 inches. It is powered by a Mabuchi RS-775 motor working thru a homemade 2.5:1 gear reduction and using a 12 volt gel cell.
The hull and cabin are pretty well complete, I am now in the process of painting and adding details.
Below and in the next few threads are some pictures.

Lets see some more "Winter Projects"



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Old Jan 29, 2003, 07:43 PM
Edina Model Yacht Club
Bloomington MN
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A Second Pic

This shows the detail of the reels, final rigging needs to be completed. The challange is going to be how to set up all of the rigging such that I can still get access to the interior of the hull without a total disassembly. Anyone have any thoughts on that?
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Old Jan 29, 2003, 07:46 PM
Edina Model Yacht Club
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3rd Pic
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Old Jan 29, 2003, 07:48 PM
Edina Model Yacht Club
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4th and final pic.
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Old Feb 01, 2003, 07:13 AM
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1st Boat

My winter project is my first boat. I hope it turns out as well as those I've see in this forum.
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Old Feb 03, 2003, 11:23 AM
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I just started a project that I've wanted to do for 20 years and that is to build a Dumas Chris Craft boat. I decided to build the barrel back #1234 and have just gotten started. I wonder if anyone has worked with these kits and is familiar with motors that perform well in this kit. I would like scale performance.

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Old Feb 03, 2003, 11:27 AM
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COMPLIMENT

I forgot to mention the boat looks great. Is it for display or are you going to power it and with what?

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Old Feb 03, 2003, 12:31 PM
Edina Model Yacht Club
Bloomington MN
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Barrell Back

Mike;
The barrell back will have limited space for motor and batteries, but they do fit. You will get very good scale speeds on a 7 cell batttery pack. 2 ideas:
1. Check out Mack Products, they have power set ups for most of the Dumas kits. I have never used their products, but I have heard good things about them. I believe that they offer matched motors and speed controls for each kit.
2. Several of the guys in our club have used R.O.A.R. stock 05 car motors on a Hughey gear drive, and had good success. The nice thing about the Hughey gear drive is that it uses stock R/C car gears, so you have a wide variety of ratios available. If using an R/C car motor, the gear drive is just about essential, as overheating will be a problem if you try to use direct drive.
One draw back to R/C car motors is that they do require some maintenance; i.e, replace brushes, springs and clean the commutator on a regular basis. A good option in this area would be a Graupner 600 series motor and the Hughey gearbox, the Graupner motor is a sealed can type, and the brushes don't require replacement.
Good luck with your project, looks like you are off to a good start.


If the above question refers to my Fishing boat, it is running a Mabuchi RS-775 motor through a homemade 2.5 to 1 geardrive. And will use a 12 volt gel cell as the battery. The boat is large enough that it needs a fair amount of ballast so size of the batteries is not a concern.
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Old Feb 03, 2003, 01:01 PM
Edina Model Yacht Club
Bloomington MN
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Barrell Back 2

Mike;
If you'd like some inspiration, go to www.emyc.org Then go to Photo Albums towards the botttom and select Scale. Go to the 25 th picture and click on the thumbnail photo and that will bring up several pictures of Dale Johnson's barrell back. This one runs an 05 car motor on a Hughey gear drive.
Dale's finish is 8 layers of epoxy, sanded and polished to a high shine.
If you are interested in building the water skier, contact me, I have plans for that and it is easy to make, and performs well. The water skier is a great hit with spectators.

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Old Feb 03, 2003, 02:28 PM
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Skier plans

Hey George, thanks for the info. That's a real looker with 18 coats. And yes, I would like the plans for the skier. That would look pretty cute.
Question? What do you think about me fiberglassing the entire hull just after the sub planking, but before the final planking. This would completely seal it for water use. I don't know if the final planking would stick to the glass like it should. Let me know.

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Old Feb 03, 2003, 04:08 PM
Edina Model Yacht Club
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Barrell Back

Mike;
I would recommend waterproofing the interior with polyurathane rather than resin, just because it is a lot easier to work with and will do just as good a job. Put 2-3 coats on. The time to do it is before you start applying the deck parts, that way you can make sure that you coat every single nook and cranny. Water spray will get into these boats when running, due to the open cockpits. I wouldn't coat the subplanking on the exterior, as you want a good bond for the finish planking, and raw wood glues better than finished.
Also, when you start adding the deck pieces make sure that you put a coat of poly on the underside of these so that the deck material does not absorb humidity from the inside.

E-mail me with your snail mail address and I will send you a photo copy of the plans/article for the water skier. I tried scanning them and e-mailing them to other people and it did not work well.

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Old Feb 03, 2003, 04:31 PM
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Thank you George for the speedy answer. I was just leaving to go purchase some resin. The varnish sounds a lot easier. While on the subject of varnish, Dumas supplies a powder to mix with water to stain the hull. It seems pretty reddish and I like the color of the wood just as it is. When it gets varnished it will have a rich color. I don't won't it so dark you can't see the grain real well. What do you think about not using the stain?
I really appreciate your help time.

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Old Feb 03, 2003, 06:50 PM
Edina Model Yacht Club
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Barrell Back

Mike;
I think that the stain is a matter of personal choice, I would recommend testing some scrap pieces with variouos stains and varnish. Pint cans of stain are pretty cheap at the discount home stores. I have used, mahagony, red mahagony, victorian mahagony, maple, oak, ebony, etc. depends on what I ultimately want in color. I've even used India ink. I use black India ink if the boat has some black trim, an once used red india ink (see thread on "Show us your boats"(?) I have pics of a highly modified triple cockpit in there, if you look close you can see the red india ink.(big tear drop shapes on the deck) I used the plastic caulking to contain the ink so it didn't bleed into the surrounding wood. You can also sustitute bass wood planking in areas to produce white. The variations are endless, it all depends on what you wnt it to look like. When I build kits I don't want it to look just like somebody elses, so invariably end up making lots of modifications. Guess that why I mainly scratch build, then nobody has one just like mine.
By the way, the water skier plans will be in the mail tomorrow.
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Old Feb 03, 2003, 07:28 PM
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photo of first boat

Will try to post picture of 1st boat.
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Old Feb 03, 2003, 10:20 PM
Edina Model Yacht Club
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Morris;
Very nice work, what boat/kit is that? I like the looks of it.


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