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Old Jul 04, 2008, 08:09 AM
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First Order, Build, Breakin, Maiden, Solo, Deadsticks, Flights!

Hi Guys, This is what I ordered and put together for my first airplane!
Appreciate any comments are welcome.

302.38 RADIO Futaba 7C 2.4 GHz radio with 4 S3004 Servos -Manual
131.99 AIRPLANE Sig Kadet LT-40 ARF .40-.46,70" http://www.sigmfg.com/IndexText/SIGRC67.html
122.84 ENGINE O.S. 46AX ABL w/Muffler http://manuals.hobbico.com/osm/46ax-manual.pdf
-43.00 CASE http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXL375&P=TF -
12.99 TRAINING CABLE http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXBEK7&P=M
50.00 BUDDY BOX http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXTFE1&P=FR
4.99 NECK STRAP http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXJB97&P=ML
4.99 NECK STRAP#2 http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXJB97&P=ML
75.00 CHARGER - Multiplex charger/cycler http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXKSY1&P=ML
12.99 VOLTMETER http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXNK81&P=7
11.99 VOLT WATCH http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXHDJ2&P=7
3.89 CHARGING JACK for Futaba http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&P=9&I=LXE963 note: switch comes with radio
8.99 CHARGE LEADS -for Futaba http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXL332&P=M
4.29 GLO-STARTER CHARGE LEADS http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXL337&P=M
18.99 GLO-STARTER w/Meter,rechargable http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXJ802&P=7
10.55 EXTRA GLO STARTER http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...JUJ6&search=Go
29.99 ENGINE STARTER - http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXL396&P=ML
29.99 STARTER BATTERY http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXL372&P=ML
10.99 STARTER BAT CHGR http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXL354&P=V
19.99 FUEL PUMP - Dave Brown Holster http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXB888&P=7
7.77 PROPS (3@2.59ea)-Nylon http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXZ971&P=ML
4.29 BALANCER - Finger tip prop - http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXK247&P=7
4.99 GLO/PROP WRENCH http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXL387&P=ML
2.49 AFTER RUN OIL http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXL391&P=ML
6.99 GLO PLUG http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXCB27&P=M
13.99 MONOKOTE IRON http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXL499&P=ML -for repairs
13.99 HEAT GUN http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXJD39&P=ML
2.99 FUEL LINE -Dubro http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXFRM1&P=0
3.29 FUEL FILTER http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXK134&P=M -for plane
4.69 FILLING FITTING AND FILTER http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&P=9&I=LXJ811 -for fuel jug
7.99 EPOXY 6 min. http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXPT44&P=ML
7.99 EPOXY 30 min. http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXPT46&P=ML
5.29 WOOD GLUE http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXNKW1&P=ML
6.69 SUPERGLUE Zap super thin CA http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXCX42&P=ML
4.29 WEIGHTS - for balancing plane http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXK204&P=ML
2.89 THREAD LOCKER -for wheels, engine screws http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&P=9&I=LXK306
3.39 FOAM RUBBER http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXL430&P=M
12.99 AEROKOTE-WHITE http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXJAU0&P=V -for repairs
200.00 SIMULATOR - Real Flight G4 sim http://www.realflight.com/ SUNGLASSES, BASEBALL CAP, FOLDING CHAIR, COOLER
10.00 TALKING TIMER -Tel-Time http://www.amazon.com/Tel-Time-Tel-T...5391995&sr=8-1
15.99 BATTERY-TRANSMITTER http://www.all-battery.com/index.asp...ROD&ProdID=166
9.99 BATTERY -RECEIVER http://www.all-battery.com/index.asp...ROD&ProdID=886
3.29 GLO-STARTER BATTERY http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXFE05&P=V
20.00 FUEL - 1 Gallon Morgan Cool Power http://www.morganfuel.com/cp_main.htm
44.99 FIELD BOX http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXPS86&P=ML
35.00 Hobby knife, allens, screwdrivers, needle nose, elect tape, pckgng tape, clear npolish,epoxy brushes, Pins,Windex,towels - need tips
For three line fuel tank setup:
1.79 STOPPER/COPPER LINES http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXE975&P=ML
1.35 ea 2 CLUNKS http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXAHE9&P=7
7.95 THREADED FUEL DOT http://www.centralhobbies.com/Fuel/f...s/tetdots.html SUNGLASSES, BASEBALL CAP, FOLDING CHAIR, COOLER
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Old Jul 04, 2008, 10:55 AM
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If you plan on joining a club, you might not need to buy a trainer cord or buddy box. I would check out the availability of such first before buying my own. If your going to buy the loaded volt meter, then you really don't need the volt watch. That's just a convenience. I would just get into the habit of checking voltage with the loaded volt meter before each flight.

Also be aware that the chargers that are available usually do not come with cords to go between the charger and radio or flight batter to charge with. You will need to add those to your needs list. I know for a fact that the Multiplex charger you chose does not come with charge cords. It is a fine charger. I used to own one, then I got one with the capability to charge more Lipo cells.

Good Luck, Vance
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Old Jul 04, 2008, 01:43 PM
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Similar answer here.
If you go with Futaba, almost every club has a buddy box for Futaba or JR.
voltwatch --- forget that one..
power panel --- Your glow plug driver has its own power.
Electric fuel pump --- neat but not really necessary, manual ones are just as good and no need for hook up wiring.
Fatmax field box --- nice but not really necessary, smaller ones for the first time will do. Just remember what happened 30 years ago, could happen again.
Charger --- every thing you buy will come with its own wallwart charger. Good enough for right now. Wait until you know how to fly and what you want to progress to. If you ever go to Lipo batts, you need another one. You definitely need a charger for your starter battery though.
Transmittter case --- nice but really not necessary. I am sure you can find something at home where your trannie will fit in for right now.
Prop --- need more than one !!! get an 11 x 5 also.

Prop nut --- get the one from DUBRO (looks like spinner but is solid aluminium, easy to tighten, looks good.
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Old Jul 04, 2008, 02:46 PM
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What indoruwet said . . .

I started this bare bones in case I failed. That was four months ago and I now have most of your list plus a second plane though I'm still using my supplied chargers. When I first started I was using a pair of jumper/booster cables from my atv to power my pump and starter (fly in my pasture). My field box was a cardboard box with my glow starter, wrenches etc. My radio was an old 4 channel hitec focus. You get the picture.

Not that there is anything wrong with spending all the money at once - I was just a little gun-shy having failed 10 years previously.

I have the voltmeter (its prob not going to work on your tx - diode protected circuit on most txs - but your tx will tell you how well it's charged). I keep a watch on my rx batts with my voltmeter. Like was mentioned, the volt watch would be redundant to the voltmeter and not needed.

I don't run cool power. I run omega - also by morgan. The omega has some castor in it which can give you some protection the pure synthetics won't.

Use 30 minute epoxy.

As mentioned, get an 11x5. I like apc or the S-2 master airscrews. I also have an apc 12x4, which is good. These props will allow you a little bit slower landings than the 10x6 and probably a bit more vertical. They will be slightly slower, tho.

The charging jack switch is nice but you can just run the charge line between your wing and fuse when you install your wing - this is what I did with my trainer but I did add the switch on my h9 p-51 mustang pts - just because it looked better.

A plastic spinner is probably cheaper than the prop nut suggested by indoruwet but I'm not sure.

FWIW, you don't really need a 7ch radio with an lt40 so I'm assuming your planning on getting bigger and more complicated planes. If you're just gonna keep the lt40, the 7c is overkill. I now have a dx7 (love it) and other than the convenience of having one radio and not being able to easily knock your trim settings off, it doesn't add alot to a basic trainer.
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Old Jul 04, 2008, 06:48 PM
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I bought most of the things on your list right off the bat. If your sure you will love the hobby and you have the money then go for it. As for the charger this is the one I have and although I have no experience with the one you picked I really love mine.
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXMAH9&P=ML

Also for the fuel try you local hobby store. They should be cheaper and no extra shipping charges. I taught myself about 2 months ago and have put threw about 3 gallons thru my 55ax and the nexstar.I also went with the 7c 2.4 and love it. Good luck to you and have fun.
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Old Jul 04, 2008, 10:42 PM
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I install a volt watch on all my planes. Nice to know at a glance the condition of your battery. I've seen guys crash that failed to check their batteries with a meter.
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Old Jul 05, 2008, 10:00 AM
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Voltwatches are nice if you don't have a voltmeter. However, I chose to buy one of these : http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXNK81&P=0 for $13 istead of a $12 voltwatch for each plane. Much more economical. The guy did ask for what would save him money.
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Old Jul 05, 2008, 11:40 AM
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Before you by anything but the bare necessities get with someone who has been in the hobby for long time. They can save you a lot of money. I have seen people do just what you are planning on then get frustrated and quit.

Think before you spend.
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Old Jul 05, 2008, 12:05 PM
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Thanks, Guys,

I've updated my list with suggestions I got here and elsewhere.

Keep them coming, please!
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baby wipes - the cheap ones from the dollar store - unscented - unless you want to reminiss about changing diapers. I prefer the wipes to windex/409/etc and paper towels, tho I may give it a going over with this method occassionally.
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Old Jul 05, 2008, 04:01 PM
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One other thing, I would go with this glow plug ignitor : http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXD699&P=0 instead of the great planes version. The Dubro one is more expensive, but the quality of it makes it worth it. I have the long and the short one and have never had a problem with them. A couple of guy in my club have the great planes glow plug igniter and they constantly pop off right after starting the engine. I don't even like holding their planes when they are ready to start up because these things could fall off and right into the spinning prop. Very dangerous. I have never had the Dubro igniters pop off like that. Very positive grip when they are clipped on.

The Dubro comes with a charger and a Sanyo sub c cell, so there is no extra expense. After 5 years of use and continual charging, I still haven't had to replace the battery in them and they work like the day I bought them.


The bare necessities would be:
The plane
an engine
radio tx, rx, servo's, flight battery, and switch harness
glow igniter
chicken stick
extra propellers
an extra glow plug or two
a glow plug wrench and prop wrench, the four way wrench by Fox, Great Planes, or Dubro would be ideal
a cardboard box to carry the accessories.

A power panel is not necessary as you will have a self contained glow igniter and if you do get an electric starter, you can connect it directly to your 12v battery of choice.
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Old Jul 05, 2008, 05:28 PM
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One other thing, I would go with this glow plug ignitor : http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXD699&P=0 instead of the great planes version. The Dubro one is more expensive, but the quality of it makes it worth it. I have the long and the short one and have never had a problem with them. A couple of guy in my club have the great planes glow plug igniter and they constantly pop off right after starting the engine. I don't even like holding their planes when they are ready to start up because these things could fall off and right into the spinning prop. Very dangerous. I have never had the Dubro igniters pop off like that. Very positive grip when they are clipped on.
Does it have a meter on it?
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Old Jul 05, 2008, 07:02 PM
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No, but you don't need a meter on it. I never have.
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Old Jul 05, 2008, 07:31 PM
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No, but you don't need a meter on it. I never have.
I know what you mean about them loosely flopping around on the glo plug while the prop is dangerously spinning at umpteen rpm!!
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Voltwatches are nice if you don't have a voltmeter. However, I chose to buy one of these : http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXNK81&P=0 for $13 istead of a $12 voltwatch for each plane. Much more economical. The guy did ask for what would save him money.
Good advice as long as you check your battery after every flight. Many don't and don't have a volt watch either.
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