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Old Jun 30, 2008, 04:44 PM
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Bomb, bomb, bomb.... bomb bomb Iran!

It would be a grand understatement to call this an interesting read.

PREPARING THE BATTLEFIELD
The Bush Administration steps up its secret moves against Iran.


Interview with the author.
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Old Jun 30, 2008, 04:49 PM
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Best to prepare now, yes.
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Old Jun 30, 2008, 05:07 PM
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Best to prepare now, yes.
Glad you read it at least.
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Old Jun 30, 2008, 05:09 PM
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Raise, Raise, Raise the price of oil!
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Old Jun 30, 2008, 05:22 PM
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Prepare now? or create a false flag for a despirate administration.

Even The CIA thought this executive or (vice-executive) operation needed a presidential finding.
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Old Jun 30, 2008, 05:30 PM
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Raise, Raise, Raise the price of oil!
Will make drilling the US ever more feasible.
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Old Jun 30, 2008, 05:48 PM
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Will make drilling the US ever more feasible.

Odd, that advocacy of a higher oil price is a bad thing if the intent is to spawn alternatives and less pollution, but a good thing if the intent is to drill for more oil in protected wilderness.
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Old Jun 30, 2008, 06:02 PM
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Not odd. Using govt to explicitly screw with markets by intentionally raising oil prices is one thing, where oil prices go on their own based on other circumstances is a different beast.
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Old Jun 30, 2008, 06:39 PM
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Hersch is a credible journalist of considerable renown and his story makes sense.

The senior Democratic leadership appears to have made a calculation that Bush/the Republicans are so hopelessly ideological and inclined to war and force at every opportunity that it's better to try and replace them than hold them accountable by oversight. The Democratic solution seems to be, let Bush get away with aggression and murder and mayhem and stew in his own incompetent juices and look bad. The Democrat's don't want to rock the boat and appear soft on terror, they want to win the 2008 elections and fix the problem by wholesale replacement of the whole the stinking brood.

I don't agree. Evil should be confronted.

I also shake my head at some of the quotes. We have US officials calmly talking about their plans for 'extrajudicial killings'. My government is populated by murderers.

They've added an asterisk to the Declaration and Constitution: "* these documents only apply to American citizens, the Declaration's statements referenceng 'all men' was a typo. And BTW we can make exceptions for American citzens too".

The noble concepts espoused by the Declaration and Constitution are dying, killed by the leaders of the US and those who do not object.
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Old Jun 30, 2008, 06:41 PM
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that dying started long ago, and we don't even agree on what issues
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Old Jun 30, 2008, 06:43 PM
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that dying started long ago, and we don't even agree on what issues
Fortunately we have Libertarians speaking out on the aspects of the Republic you think are dying. How many are projected to be elected to the Presidency/Congress?
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Old Jun 30, 2008, 06:46 PM
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Probably two or three, I'd guess.
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Old Jun 30, 2008, 06:56 PM
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Will make drilling the US ever more feasible.

Hold on to your dreams.
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Old Jun 30, 2008, 08:10 PM
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Hold on to your dreams.
and war is peace, as required by the merchants of death to turn a profit.
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Old Jun 30, 2008, 08:12 PM
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