Discussion Micro Heli INDEX -- manuals, threads, specs, links

[spinup]

This post provides a quick index of the manuals, threads, and basic specs for the different models of micro helis. Plus some links to general RC heli hobby info, and some tips for searching these forums. Share and enjoy!

-Jeff aka "spinup"


Manuals
HB King v2 (HBK2) ...... http://www.twf-sz.com/english/downlo...ybeekingII.pdf
HoneyBee FP (HBFP) ..... http://www.twf-sz.com/english/downlo.../EK1H-E004.pdf
Walkera 4#3B ........... http://www.walkera.com/en1/fileDown....expe.pdf&la=en
Maxir .................. http://laheli.com/files/navody/NavodM2008_CZEN_v1_0.pdf
Blade CP Pro ........... http://www.horizonhobby.com/ProdInfo...Pro_Manual.pdf
Compy CP ............... http://compy300.com/download/manual/...ctManualV3.pdf
Compy FP ............... http://team-compy.com/pdf/Compy_FPBD_Manual.pdf
Gaui 200 v2 SE ......... http://www.gaui.com.tw/pdf/EP200V2_I...ish)081120.pdf
Walkera #52 ............ http://www.walkera.com/cn/upload/exp...20104_expe.pdf
AXE CPv3 ............... http://manuals.hobbico.com/hmx/hmxe07-manual.pdf
HDX300 ................. http://www.helidirect.com/upload/HDX...e-Frame-V2.pdf
MS Hornet .............. http://www.mscompositusa.com/editor/...soubor_289.pdf
SJM 180 ................ http://www.sjmrc.us/pdf/sjm180215_refm_a.pdf
Walkera 4G3 ............ http://www.walkera.com/cn/upload/exp...40104_expe.pdf
Trex 250 ............... http://beta.ivancover.com/rc_helicop...009-manual.pdf
Hirobo SRB Quark ....... http://model.hirobo.co.jp/products/0302-901/index_e.htm


Threads
HB King v2 (HBK2) ...... First - Second - Third - Upgrades & Mods
HoneyBee FP (HBFP) ..... First - Second - Third - Belt Drive
Walkera 4#3 ............ First - Second - Third (A&B) - Upgrades - Brushless
Maxir .................. Main - Build - Headspeed
Blade CP ............... First - Second - Third
Compy 300 .............. Main - Build - CP
Gaui 100/200 ........... First - Second - Index
Walkera #52 ............ Main - Brushless
AXE CP ................. First
Firefox 100 ............ First
Venom NR 3D ............ First
HDX300 ................. First
MS Hornet .............. First
CopterX 200 ............ First
Wasp ................... v3 - v4
SJM 180 ................ First - Second
Walkera 4G3 ............ First
Trex 250 ............... First - Second
Hirobo SRB Quark ....... First


CP Micros by Disc Size
........................ Disc ...... AUW ...... Load* ... Tail
Walkera 4G3 ............ 302 mm ..... 68 g .... 0.95 .... motor
Walkera #52 ............ 340 mm .... 140 g .... 1.54 .... motor
Gaui 200 ............... 428 mm .... 240 g .... 1.67 .... belt or shaft
Trex 250 ............... 460 mm .... 330 g .... 1.99 .... belt
CopterX 200 ............ 465 mm .... 375 g .... 2.21 .... belt
Wasp ................... 470 mm .... 360 g .... 2.07 .... belt
SJM 180 ................ 475 mm .... 430 g .... 2.43 .... belt
Blade CP Pro ........... 515 mm .... 300 g .... 1.44 .... motor
Blade CP Pro 2 ......... 515 mm .... 325 g .... 1.56 .... motor
HDX 300 ................ 515 mm .... 435 g .... 2.09 .... belt
Blade CP+ .............. 528 mm .... 300 g .... 1.37 .... motor
HoneyBee CP2 ........... 530 mm .... 305 g .... 1.38 .... motor
Compy CP ............... 550 mm .... 395 g .... 1.66 .... belt
Compy CP V2 ............ 550 mm .... 455 g .... 1.92 .... belt
MS Hornet .............. 560 mm .... 330 g .... 1.34 .... shaft
HB King v2 ............. 600 mm .... 470 g .... 1.66 .... belt
Maxir .................. 620 mm .... 350 g .... 1.16 .... shaft

CP Micros by Weight
........................ Disc ...... AUW ...... Load* ... Tail
Walkera 4G3 ............ 302 mm ..... 68 g .... 0.95 .... motor
Walkera #52 ............ 340 mm .... 140 g .... 1.54 .... motor
Gaui 200 ............... 428 mm .... 240 g .... 1.67 .... belt or shaft
Blade CP Pro ........... 515 mm .... 300 g .... 1.44 .... motor
Blade CP+ .............. 528 mm .... 300 g .... 1.37 .... motor
HoneyBee CP2 ........... 530 mm .... 305 g .... 1.38 .... motor
Blade CP Pro 2 ......... 515 mm .... 325 g .... 1.56 .... motor
Trex 250 ............... 460 mm .... 330 g .... 1.99 .... belt
MS Hornet .............. 560 mm .... 330 g .... 1.34 .... shaft
Maxir .................. 620 mm .... 350 g .... 1.16 .... shaft
Wasp ................... 470 mm .... 360 g .... 2.07 .... belt
CopterX 200 ............ 465 mm .... 375 g .... 2.21 .... belt
Compy CP ............... 550 mm .... 395 g .... 1.66 .... belt
SJM 180 ................ 475 mm .... 430 g .... 2.43 .... belt
HDX 300 ................ 515 mm .... 435 g .... 2.09 .... belt
Compy CP V2 ............ 550 mm .... 455 g .... 1.92 .... belt
HB King v2 ............. 600 mm .... 470 g .... 1.66 .... belt

CP Micros by Disc Loading (kg/m²)
........................ Disc ...... AUW ...... Load* ... Tail
Walkera 4G3 ............ 302 mm ..... 68 g .... 0.95 .... motor
Maxir .................. 620 mm .... 350 g .... 1.16 .... shaft
MS Hornet .............. 560 mm .... 330 g .... 1.34 .... shaft
Blade CP+ .............. 528 mm .... 300 g .... 1.37 .... motor
Blade CP Pro ........... 515 mm .... 300 g .... 1.44 .... motor
HoneyBee CP2 ........... 530 mm .... 305 g .... 1.38 .... motor
Walkera #52 ............ 340 mm .... 140 g .... 1.54 .... motor
Blade CP Pro 2 ......... 515 mm .... 325 g .... 1.56 .... motor
Compy CP ............... 550 mm .... 395 g .... 1.66 .... belt
HB King v2 ............. 600 mm .... 470 g .... 1.66 .... belt
Gaui 200 ............... 428 mm .... 240 g .... 1.67 .... belt or shaft
Compy CP V2 ............ 550 mm .... 455 g .... 1.92 .... belt
Trex 250 ............... 460 mm .... 330 g .... 1.99 .... belt
Wasp ................... 470 mm .... 360 g .... 2.07 .... belt
HDX 300 ................ 515 mm .... 435 g .... 2.09 .... belt
CopterX 200 ............ 465 mm .... 375 g .... 2.21 .... belt
SJM 180 ................ 475 mm .... 430 g .... 2.43 .... belt

FP Micros
........................ Disc ....... AUW ..... Load* ... Tail
Walkera 4#3 ............ 180 mm ..... 45 g .... 1.77 .... motor
Walkera 4#3b ........... 202 mm ..... 50 g .... 1.56 .... motor
Hirobo SRB Quark ....... 355 mm .... 170 g .... 1.72 .... motor & shaft
HoneyBee FP ............ 520 mm .... 290 g .... 1.37 .... motor
Compy FP ............... 520 mm .... 375 g .... 1.77 .... belt

*Load = disc loading, in kilograms per square meter (kg/m²). Lower disc loading generally means better performance. For a quick calculation: Take the disc diameter in mm, square it, divide by 1273.24, take the reciprocal, and multiply by the AUW in grams.


Radio Manuals
Spektrum DX6i .......... http://www.spektrumrc.com/ProdInfo/F...nual-LoRes.pdf
Spektrum DX7 ........... http://www.spektrumrc.com/ProdInfo/F...DX7_Manual.pdf
Futaba 6EX ............. http://manuals.hobbico.com/fut/6ex-2_4ghz-manual.pdf
Futaba 7C .............. http://manuals.hobbico.com/fut/7c-2_4ghz-manual.pdf
Hitec Optic 6 .......... http://www.hitecrcd.com/Manuals/Radi...Manual%202.pdf
Hitec Eclipse 7 ........ http://www.hitecrcd.com/Manuals/Radi...pse7Manual.pdf
Airtronics RDS8000 ..... http://www.airtronics.net/manual/RDS8000.pdf
JR 12X ................. http://www.jrradios.com/ProdInfo/Fil...Resolution.pdf
Futaba 14MZ ............ http://manuals.hobbico.com/fut/14mz-comp-manual-v1.pdf


Other Useful RCG Forums
Batteries and Chargers
Power Systems
Radios
Simulators
3D Electric Heli Flying
Electric Heli Talk
Mini Helis
Multi Rotor Helis
Vendor Forums


Other Resources
EHBG .............................. http://www.swashplate.co.uk/html/ehbg.html
Newbies Helicopter Guide .......... http://www.eflightwiki.com/eflightwi...licopter_Guide
RADD's School of Rotary Flight .... http://www.dream-models.com/eco/flying-index.html
Battery University ................ http://www.batteryuniversity.com/partone.htm
LiPo Battery Guide ................ http://www.fmadirect.com/tech_data/index.htm
How Servos Work ................... http://www.servocity.com/html/how_do_servos_work_.html
How Digital Servos Work ........... http://www.futaba-rc.com/servos/digitalservos.pdf
Power Connectors 1 ................ http://www.flyrc.com/articles/connectors_1.shtml
Power Connectors 2 ................ http://www.flyrc.com/articles/connectors_2.shtml
Headspeed & Setup Calculator ...... http://www.dhrc.rchomepage.com/calcAdvanced.htm
"Practical Theories" articles
..... http://www.w3mh.co.uk/articles/html/csm1_2.htm
..... http://www.w3mh.co.uk/articles/html/csm3_4.htm
..... http://www.w3mh.co.uk/articles/html/csm5_6.htm
..... http://www.w3mh.co.uk/articles/html/csm7_8.htm
..... http://www.w3mh.co.uk/articles/html/csm9-11.htm


How to Find Answers

1) Read the Electric Helicopter Beginners Guide (EHBG) to learn the lingo, so you can ask questions that everyone understands.

2) Use Search Titles Only to find threads that answer your question:
- click on the "Search v" menu in the blue bar above
- click "Advanced Search"
- type your "Key Word(s)" and select All Words, Any Word, or Exact Phrase
- click on "Search Entire Posts" and select "Search Titles Only" instead
- select "Micro Helis" in the "Search in Forum(s)" list
- click the "Search Now" button

3) Use Search this thread to find posts about a specific heli:
- go to the first thread for the heli (see links above)
- click "Search this thread v" in the blue bar above and type your keywords
- choose your keywords carefully, since this box does not take phrases, just words
- repeat with each thread for the heli (some popular helis have 4 or 5 big threads)

4) Ask your question in the current thread for a specific heli. This is where the experts for that heli hang out.

5) Ask your question in a new thread. This is your last resort. First ask...will your question get enough attention in its own thread? An existing thread is usually better.

Have fun!

[spinup]

This post is a "living reference". If you have any suggestions, corrections, links to manuals for new helis, etc., please reply to this thread. I will keep editing the first post to keep it up-to-date.

If you don't have anything to add...you can stop reading now. The posts below are just to discuss what goes in the post above.

Thanks, and happy flying!
-Jeff

[lusifer]

sticky this

[Blade_Killer]

reported this post as a good sticky!!

[vanman2004b]

Yes!

[dude_109]

Sticky this, please...pretty please.

[Slyster]

YES! Also add a link to a good existing "What is a good beginner helicopter" thread!

[murdnunoc]

Good STICKY material!

[Daveairway]

sticky this

Well done!

[Blade_Killer]

if you haven't done it, "Report This Post to a Moderator" the first post and select the "make sticky" option and leave a comment why this should be a sticky, maybe if enough of us do it they will stick it

[Brown Shoe]

Stick it!

I doubt it will get stickied. What the heck happened to our old stickies? They just vanished with no explanation whatsoever. Us micro heli pilots get no respect these days!

[henryd123]

Nice one, keep it up, very usefull info

[spinup]

Wow, that was quick! Thanks guys. And thanks to the mods for making it a sticky. I'll do my best to keep the first post up-to-date...with everyone's help.

Slyster, I totally agree that a "what is a good beginner helicopter" post should be stickied or linked from this sticky. I've not yet seen a great post for this though...I think we need to write it.

IMO the ideal path is coax indoors --> FP in the yard --> CP at the field. But whether someone does all these steps depends on their unique budget, learning curve, time commitment to the hobby, and where/when they can fly. Maybe the best we can do is explain the characteristics of the three different heli types, pose a few questions, and let beginners make their own decision?

-Jeff

[Slyster]

YEAH! This is going to help LOT of people! Thanks Spinup! I'll find a good thread and post it here and if you like it.. add it up top.

[Slyster]

Spinup.. I think this one might be good to link to.. fairly long and informative

What's the best micro heli for a beginner?
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=872288