ADELAIDE & SA FLYING & CHAT - Page 428

Zootster · Nov 07, 2009, 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by blxpy

Hey Zootster - you still want those bits you said you wanted from my for sale post? Just PM me and let me know.
Cheers!

Yes I do. Will organise to meet you. PM me your mobile No

EDFjet · Nov 07, 2009, 06:16 AM

Ozzi look for the frame loss counter on Model Flight. It's a spektum accessory. Will show you frame losses and data losses.

Very handy to debug glitching.

ozzi supercub · Nov 07, 2009, 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by EDFjet

Ozzi look for the frame loss counter on Model Flight. It's a spektum accessory. Will show you frame losses and data losses.

Very handy to debug glitching.

Thanks. I will do that. I've had 2 situations where I've lost control for a few seconds now. Very strange.

EDFjet · Nov 07, 2009, 06:30 AM

I find even if I bend my tx antenna at a 45 degree angel I still get a few frame losses. Do you bend yours at 45 or 90 degrees?

ozzi supercub · Nov 07, 2009, 06:34 AM

No bend. I keep it straight. I'm thinking that the first may have been a low voltage brown out. That was a while ago with a little edf Sabre. That one I recovered and brought her home. Todays is a mystery. The plane was right in front of me. It just died and headed straight for the ground. It had one of the new 6110's in it which are meant to have a really quick recovery although at the altitude I was at no recovery would have been quick enough.

I had a look at the spektrum accessory and it says it oly works with 9 channel Rx's

EDFjet · Nov 07, 2009, 07:14 AM

Try keeping your antenna bend, I had mine straight and had problems with signal when the plane was directly infront of me. Something to do with the pattern the radio transmitts. I bet Dave knows all about it!

Really on 9CH rx's? That's dumb, they should have made it for all of them.

Astrowall · Nov 07, 2009, 03:12 PM

The antenna radiation is almost Null straight out the top of any antenna like that, same goes for any antenna of that design. They best radiate outwards from the antenna, the best way to hold would be straight up 90 degrees from the planes location.

This is a typical Vertical antenna radiation pattern, looking from the side. The antenna is pointing straight upwards...

fingersintrlcd · Nov 07, 2009, 09:14 PM

Totally, always keep the antenna at 90* to the horizon. Think of the antenna as a fluro light (a straight one, not the energy efficient ones u put in a standard globe fitting), if you look at it end on from a distance you won't see any of the light.

ozzi supercub · Nov 07, 2009, 09:44 PM

I knew there was something about pointing your antenna at your plane with 2.4 gear but the fluro analogy really cleared it up. Thanks Adam.
What if you bend your antenna at 90* so that it is basically pointing straight up from where your standing. Does that mean any area in front of and above you has a good clear signal?
Using the fluro again. If I hold the fluro up the same way I am standing then even if someone is right at the other end of the field they should see the light.

Odysis · Nov 07, 2009, 11:01 PM

At the other end of the field's fine, but if your plane is over your head?

NitroCharged · Nov 07, 2009, 11:17 PM

My philosophy is have the aerial straight up out of your txer and never point it at the model. If you watch me fly I am always at an angle to my model - never facing it.

I use the 'txer signal looks like a doughnut' methodology - the hole of the doughnut represents the hole in the signal pattern, just like the fluro description.

Astrowall · Nov 08, 2009, 03:07 AM

Just got back from my Scale Day out at the field, was bloody hot out there and wind was blowing a bit but managed to take about 300 images and some video. Will post some soon after I get a chance to delete some of the bad ones

Flew the radian before and after the competition, was great, at around 4pm I was getting thermal after thermal, so just say down inder some cover with a cold drink and relaxed... One hand on my stick.. What a life

fingersintrlcd · Nov 09, 2009, 06:16 AM

I was going to write something useful about donuts and eathworms but instead I'll just say:

Fu#%%£]¥]£ iPhone. Why does it always refesh the page when a go look at something else for a few minutes to copy n paste something in here. Maybe I *don't* want to lose my 200 word post I spent 5 minutes labouriously typing on this stupid on screen keyboard.

Anyway, I could have retyped the post by now, but #€=¥{]]<¥} it.

rcozstyle · Nov 09, 2009, 05:22 PM

Who's going to the indoor on saturday night ?.

ozzi supercub · Nov 09, 2009, 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fingersintrlcd

I was going to write something useful about donuts and eathworms but instead I'll just say:

Fu#%%£]¥]£ iPhone. Why does it always refesh the page when a go look at something else for a few minutes to copy n paste something in here. Maybe I *don't* want to lose my 200 word post I spent 5 minutes labouriously typing on this stupid on screen keyboard.

Anyway, I could have retyped the post by now, but #€=¥{]]<¥} it.

Be careful about using expletives fingers.

I was reported for having an avatar of a guy just trying to shake his plane out of a tree.

Quote" Funny but suggestive"
That's what i was charged with.

Keeps life interesting I guess.

Nov 07, 2009, 06:16 AM	#6407
EDFjet Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Albury, Australia Posts: 839	Ozzi look for the frame loss counter on Model Flight. It's a spektum accessory. Will show you frame losses and data losses. Very handy to debug glitching.

Nov 07, 2009, 06:30 AM	#6409
EDFjet Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Albury, Australia Posts: 839	I find even if I bend my tx antenna at a 45 degree angel I still get a few frame losses. Do you bend yours at 45 or 90 degrees?

Nov 07, 2009, 06:34 AM	#6410
ozzi supercub WA WA WEE! Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: South Australia Posts: 2,683	No bend. I keep it straight. I'm thinking that the first may have been a low voltage brown out. That was a while ago with a little edf Sabre. That one I recovered and brought her home. Todays is a mystery. The plane was right in front of me. It just died and headed straight for the ground. It had one of the new 6110's in it which are meant to have a really quick recovery although at the altitude I was at no recovery would have been quick enough. I had a look at the spektrum accessory and it says it oly works with 9 channel Rx's

Nov 07, 2009, 07:14 AM	#6411
EDFjet Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Albury, Australia Posts: 839	Try keeping your antenna bend, I had mine straight and had problems with signal when the plane was directly infront of me. Something to do with the pattern the radio transmitts. I bet Dave knows all about it! Really on 9CH rx's? That's dumb, they should have made it for all of them.

Nov 07, 2009, 03:12 PM	#6412
Astrowall Andrew Join Date: May 2008 Location: Paralowie, South Australia Posts: 714	The antenna radiation is almost Null straight out the top of any antenna like that, same goes for any antenna of that design. They best radiate outwards from the antenna, the best way to hold would be straight up 90 degrees from the planes location. This is a typical Vertical antenna radiation pattern, looking from the side. The antenna is pointing straight upwards...

Nov 07, 2009, 09:14 PM	#6413
fingersintrlcd Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Adelaide, South Australia Posts: 245	Totally, always keep the antenna at 90* to the horizon. Think of the antenna as a fluro light (a straight one, not the energy efficient ones u put in a standard globe fitting), if you look at it end on from a distance you won't see any of the light.

Nov 07, 2009, 09:44 PM	#6414
ozzi supercub WA WA WEE! Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: South Australia Posts: 2,683	I knew there was something about pointing your antenna at your plane with 2.4 gear but the fluro analogy really cleared it up. Thanks Adam. What if you bend your antenna at 90* so that it is basically pointing straight up from where your standing. Does that mean any area in front of and above you has a good clear signal? Using the fluro again. If I hold the fluro up the same way I am standing then even if someone is right at the other end of the field they should see the light.

Nov 07, 2009, 11:01 PM	#6415
Odysis Life begins at transition Join Date: May 2007 Location: Adelaide, Aus Posts: 732	At the other end of the field's fine, but if your plane is over your head?

Nov 07, 2009, 11:17 PM	#6416
NitroCharged Team30 Micro EDF Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Adelaide, Australia Posts: 5,580	My philosophy is have the aerial straight up out of your txer and never point it at the model. If you watch me fly I am always at an angle to my model - never facing it. I use the 'txer signal looks like a doughnut' methodology - the hole of the doughnut represents the hole in the signal pattern, just like the fluro description.

Nov 08, 2009, 03:07 AM	#6417
Astrowall Andrew Join Date: May 2008 Location: Paralowie, South Australia Posts: 714	Just got back from my Scale Day out at the field, was bloody hot out there and wind was blowing a bit but managed to take about 300 images and some video. Will post some soon after I get a chance to delete some of the bad ones Flew the radian before and after the competition, was great, at around 4pm I was getting thermal after thermal, so just say down inder some cover with a cold drink and relaxed... One hand on my stick.. What a life

Nov 09, 2009, 06:16 AM	#6418
fingersintrlcd Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Adelaide, South Australia Posts: 245	I was going to write something useful about donuts and eathworms but instead I'll just say: Fu#%%£]¥]£ iPhone. Why does it always refesh the page when a go look at something else for a few minutes to copy n paste something in here. Maybe I don't want to lose my 200 word post I spent 5 minutes labouriously typing on this stupid on screen keyboard. Anyway, I could have retyped the post by now, but #€=¥{]]<¥} it.

Nov 09, 2009, 05:22 PM	#6419
rcozstyle Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: gawler, South Australia Posts: 3,181	Who's going to the indoor on saturday night ?.