MSH Protos Owners Thread - Page 2

Eric_W · May 21, 2008, 06:19 PM

It's hard waiting now.., knowing i bought one..
Hope it will leave Italy soon, so i also can post some happy reports

Eric

eheli.com.au · May 21, 2008, 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ozace

I am looking forward to participating here. My Protos has landed in country and just waiting on customs clearance.

Waiting on the phone call Adam - then I'm off to pickup the shipment personally - very exciting.

Thanks for starting the thread J!

Sorry Corrado - the car in the pic has the steering wheel in the correct position from where I sit

Boyd just trying to clarify - SAB specify their '425' blade as being 430mm hole to tip - plus the 100mm hole to hole on the head - making 960mm. Has the Protos 'special' SAB blades or am I missing something else?

tick tick tick - I wish the phone would ring....
Cheers,
Robert

Hoverup · May 21, 2008, 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eheli.com.au

Boyd just trying to clarify - SAB specify their '425' blade as being 430mm hole to tip - plus the 100mm hole to hole on the head - making 960mm. Has the Protos 'special' SAB blades or am I missing something else?
Cheers,
Robert

The tips of the 425 blades are swept at an angle, so I measured to the middle of this angle from the blade bolt hole. This is the true span if you want to plot the effective rotor circle. The only way to get 430mm is to measure diagonally from the blade bolt hole to the trail edge tip of the blade. This would give you a dimension good for checking T/R clearance, but not an effective plot of the blade lifting circle.

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DriveWRX · May 21, 2008, 10:19 PM

I'm waiting for mine too.
In the mean time here's a new video to watch. Hard 3D on a production PROTOS.

luigi rungi con msh (4 min 16 sec)

eheli.com.au · May 21, 2008, 10:19 PM

Thanks for the clarification Boyd, that all makes sense then - everyone is right, kinda!
950mm span it is then!!
Cheers,
ROB!

geneween · May 21, 2008, 10:38 PM

hopefully mine will be here before this weekend. go pete go....

Geneween

ozace · May 22, 2008, 02:47 AM

The first batch of Aussie kits have landed

I should have mine tomorrow by express post , ready for a weekend build

I am excited

heli-headcase · May 22, 2008, 04:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoverup

The tips of the 425 blades are swept at an angle, so I measured to the middle of this angle from the blade bolt hole. This is the true span if you want to plot the effective rotor circle. The only way to get 430mm is to measure diagonally from the blade bolt hole to the trail edge tip of the blade. This would give you a dimension good for checking T/R clearance, but not an effective plot of the blade lifting circle.

Since the tail blades couldn't care less about "effective blade lifting circle", the 430mm dimension to the tip is what counts. What bugs me is the inconsistent way blades are being marked as advertised lengths in the smaller class heli's. The T-Rex 450 class has all blades measured from end-to-end, not hole to tip. Why?

Anyway, I'm awaiting on my Protos from Pete too. I'm certain to enjoy flying with the SAB blades but will be wanting to try other too for comparison purposes. If they'll fit, may even bolt on a set of Concept 10 blades just for fun

They're 420mm (hole-to-tip) but 6mm thick. Spacers required. No harsh flying, just some current measurements and zooming about.

Hey, just broke the "century posting" mark. WHOOPEE!!!

hb888 · May 22, 2008, 05:02 AM

Just got mine delivered. I must be Protos customer no. 2 in the UK

Initial impressions:

1. The canopy is VERY light
2. The tail fin is gonna break on a heavy landing for sure (I can see why the AUW weight is light)
3. Disappointed in the internal packaging. Beside the box for the blades and tail boom, and the box for the motor, everything is just throw in. I haven't checked for damages yet, but I'm sure someone is going to be unlucky.

It's probably going to be a slow build for me especially that a 16T/17T isn't available in the UK yet.

I'll post photos probably tomorrow evening.

HighFreq · May 22, 2008, 05:10 AM

Lightweight doesn't come from tail fin and canopy, make them stronger it'd take 20-30 grams, still very far away from 1800 AUW of competition.

regards,

Corrado

hb888 · May 22, 2008, 05:21 AM

Hi Corrado,

IMHO I would really suggest adding card inserts to separate and protect the separate bits inside the box in future release. Minimum cost addition.

Any idea when we'll get 16T/17T in the UK?

Thanks

HighFreq · May 22, 2008, 05:49 AM

Pinions will hit UK next week.

We have been already working inside boxes since 2-3 weeks. Hopefully we will add them shortly.

Hope you like the heli.

Corrado

hb888 · May 22, 2008, 06:04 AM

First negative

My Canopy is cracked at the base! Ahhhhh.....

Around 2-3cm in total. Probably due to bits moving in transit.

I'll add photo later.

Kepler · May 22, 2008, 06:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ozace

The first batch of Aussie kits have landed

I should have mine tomorrow by express post , ready for a weekend build

I am excited

Looks like your the first in Aus to get the kit

. Mine arrives Monday. Thats fine for me. Gives me all week to build ready for a weekend test fly.

Big thanks to Rob from eheli for getting these kits out to us without delay.

eheli.com.au · May 22, 2008, 06:21 AM

I was hoping to get a few more kits sent out if I had got the shipment from customs sooner - but DHL work slower than the public service - couldn't organise a prayer in church! Oh well, I'll be a busy boy at the post office tomorrow! I think I need more kits at the rate these are going out the door

Very cool boxes Corrado - very stylish - but parts dividers would be an improvement for the next order - even if just the motor box is taped in place. Keep up the fantastic work!!

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May 21, 2008, 06:19 PM	#16
Eric_W Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Netherlands Posts: 199	It's hard waiting now.., knowing i bought one.. Hope it will leave Italy soon, so i also can post some happy reports Eric

May 21, 2008, 10:19 PM	#20
eheli.com.au Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 27	Thanks for the clarification Boyd, that all makes sense then - everyone is right, kinda! 950mm span it is then!! Cheers, ROB!

May 21, 2008, 10:38 PM	#21
geneween Conformity Kill's Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Mission Viejo, CA Posts: 2,796	hopefully mine will be here before this weekend. go pete go.... Geneween

May 22, 2008, 02:47 AM	#22
ozace Renewed interest Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Melbourne , Australia Posts: 8,918	The first batch of Aussie kits have landed I should have mine tomorrow by express post , ready for a weekend build I am excited

May 22, 2008, 05:02 AM	#24
hb888 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Monmouth UK Posts: 1,021	Just got mine delivered. I must be Protos customer no. 2 in the UK Initial impressions: 1. The canopy is VERY light 2. The tail fin is gonna break on a heavy landing for sure (I can see why the AUW weight is light) 3. Disappointed in the internal packaging. Beside the box for the blades and tail boom, and the box for the motor, everything is just throw in. I haven't checked for damages yet, but I'm sure someone is going to be unlucky. It's probably going to be a slow build for me especially that a 16T/17T isn't available in the UK yet. I'll post photos probably tomorrow evening.

May 22, 2008, 05:10 AM	#25
HighFreq Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Milan Linate, Italy Posts: 894	Lightweight doesn't come from tail fin and canopy, make them stronger it'd take 20-30 grams, still very far away from 1800 AUW of competition. regards, Corrado

May 22, 2008, 05:21 AM	#26
hb888 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Monmouth UK Posts: 1,021	Hi Corrado, IMHO I would really suggest adding card inserts to separate and protect the separate bits inside the box in future release. Minimum cost addition. Any idea when we'll get 16T/17T in the UK? Thanks

May 22, 2008, 05:49 AM	#27
HighFreq Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Milan Linate, Italy Posts: 894	Pinions will hit UK next week. We have been already working inside boxes since 2-3 weeks. Hopefully we will add them shortly. Hope you like the heli. Corrado

May 22, 2008, 06:04 AM	#28
hb888 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Monmouth UK Posts: 1,021	First negative My Canopy is cracked at the base! Ahhhhh..... Around 2-3cm in total. Probably due to bits moving in transit. I'll add photo later.

May 22, 2008, 06:21 AM	#30
eheli.com.au Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 27	I was hoping to get a few more kits sent out if I had got the shipment from customs sooner - but DHL work slower than the public service - couldn't organise a prayer in church! Oh well, I'll be a busy boy at the post office tomorrow! I think I need more kits at the rate these are going out the door Very cool boxes Corrado - very stylish - but parts dividers would be an improvement for the next order - even if just the motor box is taped in place. Keep up the fantastic work!!