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Old Dec 12, 2012, 08:10 PM
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We all have alot to learn....

I like to fly my models scale, and the T-28 is great for that. Working in nice, scale, accurate Cuban Eights now, and will probably start to work on stall turns/tail-slides or whatever that little 180 turn at the top of a stall is called. (Actually, it's right before a stall...)

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Isnt it called a "Wing-over"... thats what my pilot mate calls it.
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Old Dec 12, 2012, 09:15 PM
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Hmmm....

Sure, I'll call it a wingover...!

I just wanna get to the point where mine look like they flow like water...
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Old Dec 12, 2012, 09:33 PM
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Pitts S2b Special - Wingover, Crosswind Landing and Ground Loop (0 min 53 sec)


Right at the beginning this Pitts does a "Wingover".

I normally do these with my T-28, just climb up to a decent altitude, chop the throttle and as the plane stalls, kick in with the rudder and she swings round 180 degrees.

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Old Dec 12, 2012, 09:45 PM
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Hmmm....

Sure, I'll call it a wingover...!

I just wanna get to the point where mine look like they flow like water...
Hi John!

Here is my Great Planes Super Sportster EP with a very powerful brushless Inrunner motor and at the 0.44 second mark you can see the Wing Over.

Super Sportster EP TOP SPEED 11-06-2007 2nd FLT (4 min 25 sec)
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Old Dec 12, 2012, 10:18 PM
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Cool!

In that case, I'll be working on my wing-overs this weekend !

I'm very picky about my maneuvers; I'll spend countless batteries just to get one particular maneuver right. Cuban Eights are just about where I want them, rolls look extremely scale, as well as loops.

Now it's on to perfecting wing-overs !
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Old Dec 13, 2012, 01:35 PM
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Cool!

In that case, I'll be working on my wing-overs this weekend !

I'm very picky about my maneuvers; I'll spend countless batteries just to get one particular maneuver right. Cuban Eights are just about where I want them, rolls look extremely scale, as well as loops.

Now it's on to perfecting wing-overs !
Let us know if you can do a perfect wingover with the throttle all the way off. I think the full-sized planes may need at least SOME air going over the rudder to kick it around at the top of the climb.
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Old Dec 13, 2012, 03:16 PM
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Let us know if you can do a perfect wingover with the throttle all the way off. I think the full-sized planes may need at least SOME air going over the rudder to kick it around at the top of the climb.
I dunno...

If the weather's cooperating, Saturday is flying day.

I agree, I'm already thinking I'm gonna need at least some throttle when I kick the tail around; if that's too much, the next time I'll use less, more, etc.

That's what makes this hobby fun !
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Old Dec 13, 2012, 03:18 PM
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How about my oldest T-28 Navy?

Hi Guys!

Well, this morning I was determined to make a Video with my newest Keychain Camera and considering it was very overcast / Cloudy and super windy with high gusts in the 12 - 15 MPH, the model performed just majestically! Because of using the Park Zone 15, the model is exactly 6oz. heavier than the stock setup.

Power System Setup:
- Park Zone 15 (950Kv) identical motor that comes in PZ Spitfire Mk IX
- E-Flite 30-AMP Switch Mode ESC
- APC "E" 9 X 7.5 Propeller
- Turnigy 3-Cell, 2200mAH, 25C, Li-POLYs
- Everything else stardard and stock

Park Zone T-28 Navy Knife Edge all around the Field 12-13-2012 (6 min 6 sec)
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Old Dec 13, 2012, 04:12 PM
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Hi Guys!

Well, this morning I was determined to make a Video with my newest Keychain Camera and considering it was very overcast / Cloudy and super windy with high gusts in the 12 - 15 MPH, the model performed just majestically! Because of using the Park Zone 15, the model is exactly 6oz. heavier than the stock setup.

Power System Setup:
- Park Zone 15 (950Kv) identical motor that comes in PZ Spitfire Mk IX
- E-Flite 30-AMP Switch Mode ESC
- APC "E" 9 X 7.5 Propeller
- Turnigy 3-Cell, 2200mAH, 25C, Li-POLYs
- Everything else standard and stock
That was great flying, especially in those conditions! I'm also really impressed with the camera work. What kind of camera is it, a #16 HD? I'd be afraid of it coming "unstuck" - how did you attach the Velcro? Also does it affect the way the plane handles when mounted on the wing? Apparently not!
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Old Dec 13, 2012, 06:33 PM
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Do you fly using rudder or do you Justwingit?

Wingovers need mostly rudder. JMO.

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I dunno...

If the weather's cooperating, Saturday is flying day.

I agree, I'm already thinking I'm gonna need at least some throttle when I kick the tail around; if that's too much, the next time I'll use less, more, etc.

That's what makes this hobby fun !
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Old Dec 13, 2012, 06:51 PM
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Hi Guys!

Well, this morning I was determined to make a Video with my newest Keychain Camera and considering it was very overcast / Cloudy and super windy with high gusts in the 12 - 15 MPH, the model performed just majestically! Because of using the Park Zone 15, the model is exactly 6oz. heavier than the stock setup.

Power System Setup:
- Park Zone 15 (950Kv) identical motor that comes in PZ Spitfire Mk IX
- E-Flite 30-AMP Switch Mode ESC
- APC "E" 9 X 7.5 Propeller
- Turnigy 3-Cell, 2200mAH, 25C, Li-POLYs
- Everything else stardard and stock

https://vimeo.com/55560056
Is this the T-28 you recently had the accident with? Great Video!
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Old Dec 13, 2012, 08:08 PM
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Do you fly using rudder or do you Justwingit?

Wingovers need mostly rudder. JMO.
Ah...

Yes, although I always Justwingit, I do use rudder

And yes, wingovers, stall-turns, hammerheads, whatever you want to call them, do need mostly rudder...

(I was poking around several aerobatic websites and it appears that the same basic maneuver is called at least a couple of things...notably "stall turns", although at least one source says that is a misnomer as the aircraft never really stalls. I'd have to agree with that...)

I've done some half-hearted attempts at them in the past, but now I want to really perfect them
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Old Dec 13, 2012, 08:50 PM
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That was great flying, especially in those conditions! I'm also really impressed with the camera work. What kind of camera is it, a #16 HD? I'd be afraid of it coming "unstuck" - how did you attach the Velcro? Also does it affect the way the plane handles when mounted on the wing? Apparently not!
Hi Pilgrim!

It is the High Res Keychain camera and even though I like it, I am still trying to figure out how to command it to take High Resolution.

I found and purchased it from there:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/230884209504...84.m1497.l2649



Velcro is Industrial strength so, I doubt the camera will see enough G-Forces to dislodge it. A little tape will only be in front of the Microphone to reduce the Motor / Prop Wash.

Lastly, no the camera is pretty light and did not notice any ill effects on how the Trojan Flew.
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Old Dec 13, 2012, 08:51 PM
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Is this the T-28 you recently had the accident with? Great Video!
No, the one that crashed was the "T-28D AIRFORCE" the one in the most recent Video from this morning is the "T-28 NAVY"
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Old Dec 13, 2012, 09:05 PM
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Hi Pilgrim!

It is the High Res Keychain camera and even though I like it, I am still trying to figure out how to command it to take High Resolution.

Velcro is Industrial strength so, I doubt the camera will see enough G-Forces to dislodge it. A little tape will only be in front of the Microphone to reduce the Motor / Prop Wash.

Lastly, no the camera is pretty light and did not notice any ill effects on how the Trojan Flew.
Neat trick with the tape over the mike; I wondered how you kept the noise level down. I have to turn the mike off when flying my camera.

I was less concerned with the G's than with air speed and vibration but it seems clear from your vid that the camera is holding fine. Is its own adhesive enough to hold the Velcro to the foam or did you use any glue for insurance?

You may want to check out the #16 HD keychain thread on this forum. I have two of them; they take awesome HD video and pix and only cost $40 with shipping included. Mine were each delivered from Hong Kong in less than two weeks. With the mfr's blessing a guy wrote a freeware routine to set the date/time stamp and change settings, e.g. volume, from your pc using the camera's usb port and charging cable. I made a few vids flying the camera under my 120 SR.
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