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Old Nov 23, 2011, 07:43 AM
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Hey..all y'all

Happy Thanksgiving to the best group on the net!!
I'm planning on piggin' out at the feast!
May have to call 911.
G
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Old Nov 23, 2011, 08:06 AM
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LOL Gerald!


Happy T-day to everyone!

We're gonna eat about 2:00 tomorrow then I have to do some mechanical work at the house, I'm gonna install a rearend in a recliner.................
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Old Nov 23, 2011, 08:11 AM
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This is G Don out here in beautiful downtown Granada Hills saying happy ' Thanksgiving ' to all the glider troops here on Steve's great thread, and don't OD on the stuffing etc.

Enjoy!!

G Don
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Old Nov 23, 2011, 08:44 AM
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+ Many, have a great turkey day! We're dining at 2:00 and then the lot of us are headed to WinStar World Casino to give them our money .
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Old Nov 23, 2011, 09:13 AM
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Happy Turkey Day ya'll !!! Let's all hope we don't exceed maximum wing loading due to excess ballast!

Sean... Check the Brewers if you haven't done so lately.
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Old Nov 23, 2011, 09:43 AM
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aeajr,
How would you consider it for those that may be currently standing, yet, physically challenged?

Jared

Darn, I still have a challenge with politically correct terminology.
The OneWinch does not require athletic abiltity. It does not require a lot of strength as you use your body weight and your legs to do the pulling.

However it does require a little coordination, if you are launching by yourself, as you have to tension up, throw the glider and walk back as you fly the glider. The first two or three launches where I did it by myself were kinda ackward for me, but after that it was easy.

I would recomend you do your first launches when there is at lest a 5 mph breeze. Or have someone do the pulling as you fly the plane for the first launch or two. That is what I did.

Of course you can have someone else do the pulling for you all the time. Again it is not hard. The average 9 year old might be able to pull up a 2M plane. I have launched my 3M Thermal Dancer by myself many times and I am no athlete. I can walk and chew gum as long as it is not bubble gum.

If you have the plane set up right and have a 5+ mph breeze you typically only have to walk back 20 to 40 feet before you hit the "tension point", then you just stand and lean into it to hold tension as the wind takes it up. On very few of my launches have I been moving backward the whole time. That only happens when there is no breeze at all. This is a lot less than the typical 300 foot pull you do with a hi-start.

Once you hit the tension point, you take a step or two back from time to time. If you want a zoom then you will want to pull strongly for about 5 seconds, but that is mostly body weight leaning into the line. When it releases you should be ready for the release in tension. Watch the videos below.

None of this is hard or particulary very physically challenging but it does take a little coordination and you have to walk. If walking and chewing gum is a challenge then this might not be the right choice for you.

Now, if you are physically challenged to the point where walking is hard, or where walking backward is a problem then you probably have an issue with hi-starts too. A 300 foot walk to tension up a hi-start can be demanding for some people. Then you walk back 400 to 500 feet to get the chute and another 500 feet to stretche it out again.

If walking or applying tension is an issue, I would recommend an electric sport winch. They are lighter than a standard FLS electric winch and can use a lighter battery. They cost a lot more than a OneWinch or a hi-start but there is no walking in order to launch the plane, other than going to get the chute.

You can find my field report here:
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...&postcount=135

You can see my posted videos here.
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...&postcount=159
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...&postcount=161


Notice how we walk back then we hit a tension point and just hold. The greater the breeze, the lighter your plane, the sooner you hit this point but I think with a 5 mph you can hit this point reliabley. Under 5 mph you may be walking back more during the launch.

This works well for me because our field is about 500X500 of cut grass surrounded with a very large area of 3-4 foot high grass. With a hi-start either I burry the hi-start 300 feet into the tall grass or I am pulling 300 feet into the tall grass. With the One winch I can do it all on the cut grass area and stay out of the weeds, at least as long as I land the glider on the cut grass.
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Old Nov 23, 2011, 10:26 AM
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LOL Gerald!


Happy T-day to everyone!

We're gonna eat about 2:00 tomorrow then I have to do some mechanical work at the house, I'm gonna install a rearend in a recliner.................

Now there is something I never thought to do on T-Day

Happy T-Day to all you glider guiders, I have the day off and found a long honey-do list on the table this morning

Al

who,also found a 4M ASK-27 restoration project in his future
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Old Nov 23, 2011, 11:58 AM
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Happy Thanksgiving to everyone here. Be careful that there isn't any wood or composites in the bird you eat. Save those for flying.
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Old Nov 23, 2011, 03:56 PM
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Gobble,Gobble,Gobble, eat drink and be the first to fall asleep on the couch.

Does Turkey day mean we're suppose to drink some "Wild Turkey" tomorrow.
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Old Nov 23, 2011, 06:44 PM
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Man what a spendid day. Missed you at the field today DW. Got to fly for the first time in many, many weeks on a day with basically no wind and a decent amount of lift. I put my first flight of the day on the electrified Chrysalis. Launch was just before 2:00pm and touched down just a tick before 2:30. I goofed off a bit since I didn't have a duration goal to set (wish I had) but it sure did validate the Chrysalis as a good flying plane. Some of the moldies joined me in some light lift but eventually turned to find lift elsewhere, hopefully not because of something I was doing as a pilot. I did at least try to keep flying in the same orbit as everyone else in the thermal.

To put a cap on it, Jack showed up at the field after making his run to Lone Star Balsa. He's every bit the gentleman he seems to be even if he did give me some grief about having a motor on the front of one of my fuses. At least he did see me fumble around a lot with my first attempts at flying off the winch myself. It seems that I still don't have my hook in the right spot though. I seem to get much more altitude off a hi-start than I was off the winch today. Maybe I'll put that adjustable hook on sooner rather than later.
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Old Nov 23, 2011, 07:25 PM
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Be careful tomorrow... Anyone in this group could be accused of cannibalism!!!! Turkeys and Hams... ALL!!!

It was good to meet Tim, today, and see all the Dallas guys... Made the day worthwhile!

Darth Balsa Lumberyard... (47 sheets of 1/16" sheet in widths 4" and 6" for $61.53!!!! )
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Old Nov 23, 2011, 07:28 PM
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Al, which ASW-27 is it?

Eddie, as far as I know it's a requirement as a patriotic American that one partakes a little of the Wild Turkey. In fact I wouldn't be surprised to find out that someone misquoted history and that it really was that stuff the indians and the Pilgrims shared, not some big fat nasty fowl.

Tim, After Jack left did you check your wallet?
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Old Nov 23, 2011, 07:35 PM
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Thanks to all for the laughs, sailplane stories, building pics and the comaraderie over the past year. (my favorite thread) Cheers to you Steve for keeping this place alive. Enjoy the last part of your epic trek mate!
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Old Nov 23, 2011, 08:16 PM
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Hi Jack

That sure seems like a very good price as i paid 3 something for 1/16" x 3" wide at the LHS, thinking wow these prices are crazy.

G Don
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Old Nov 23, 2011, 08:28 PM
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Tim, After Jack left did you check your wallet?
LOL. Maybe he left a donation?
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