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Old Mar 08, 2010, 10:33 AM
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Thanks Jack, I'm finally seeing the light at the end of the tunnel . I'd build you one dude, but we'd be 2 years older by the time I got it to you. .
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Old Mar 08, 2010, 10:59 AM
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Awww Come on Don, you're not thinking it through here. This one is going so slow because it's the first one. You get faster on each one after this. So maybe a year and a half older.
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Old Mar 08, 2010, 11:28 AM
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Oh, thanks alot Jeff . I stayed home today with sinus junk so I'm spending the day Olying about .
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Old Mar 08, 2010, 02:05 PM
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Don
Are you thinking of capping the open bays on the trailing edge of your wings?
After seeing this hint from another "Olyer" I will definitely be doing that on all of my next kits.
Have another pull of JD Black and tell the sinus stuff to GTH
Gerald
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Old Mar 08, 2010, 08:24 PM
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You know Mr. G, I was sure thinking about it. I think it was PP or Dave that did it. During the build, I have noticed movement (bow) coming and going with RH change. May help get rid of that some. I don't like the extra weight but I think I'm gonna come in pretty good on AUW anyhow. You and I think alike! Couple pulls on some Hana Bay Rum made me feel just right. I ain't sneezin cause my nose is numb .
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Old Mar 08, 2010, 08:47 PM
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Don
Are you thinking of capping the open bays on the trailing edge of your wings?
After seeing this hint from another "Olyer" I will definitely be doing that on all of my next kits.
Have another pull of JD Black and tell the sinus stuff to GTH
Gerald
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Hey Guys,

there is no wing twist in the OLY lll due to the wide D tube sheeting.

and no wing twist in any of my Bird Series or Nostalgia kits that have D tube sheeting.

You can add all the cross bracing, rib capping you want, but your not gaining anything but weight. For some, cap strips are eye candy, I like see them too.

I have to make this post for fear that others that are new or unfamilar with what D tube sheeting does for a wing will think the rib bracing, rib capping is necessary. It is not necessary.

My 2m Lil Bird has wider rib spacing, it will take a vertical dive with no problem. Rib spacing is a factor in wing rigidity.

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Old Mar 08, 2010, 08:55 PM
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Ray, wise words as always, a vast majority of flyers will be happy with the stock OlyIII as you describe I would think, especially if they are newish to the hobby.

I'm wondering though about what Gerlad was describing by 'capping the open bays on the trailing edge of your wings'. I first read it as meaning that the gaps between the TE sheets where the end at the ribs was capped, not cap strips on the ribs themselves. I'll try and find a photo of that.

It gets my thumbs up as a sensible mod for less TE flex, shape form holding to prevent sag between ribs and for only a tiny little gain in weight. Not necessary for everyone, but the more advanced builder will recognise the reasons why.
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Old Mar 08, 2010, 09:03 PM
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Don
Are you thinking of capping the open bays on the trailing edge of your wings?
After seeing this hint from another "Olyer" I will definitely be doing that on all of my next kits.
Have another pull of JD Black and tell the sinus stuff to GTH
Gerald
Gerald,
are the little strips between the ribs that fill out the space between the upper and lower TE sheets what you were describing? This pic is a 2 meter skybench Lil Bird but it has the same thing.

Cheers,
Steve
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Old Mar 08, 2010, 10:35 PM
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My only reason for wanting to add the small strips between the TE sheeting is because of my bear paws. In a panic situation, like the wind catching the wing while I am putting it all together, when I grab for the wing it invariably is on the TE. I have crushed those areas between the ribs a few times.
My Birds can handle the small bit of extra weight in the way I fly. Those who keep each gram off the build have my respect. I'm only thinking of longevity.

Steve
Yes, exactly. I was not very clear in my question to Don when I said "the open bays." I had meant the open area between the top and bottom sheeting of the TE.

Don
Now yer talkin' matey! Rum is me elixir o life!
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Old Mar 08, 2010, 10:40 PM
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I understood completely Gerald and am seriously considering it, here's PP's pic...hope you don't mind PP.
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Old Mar 08, 2010, 10:51 PM
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Can we call it a "V" box trailing edge ??
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Old Mar 08, 2010, 10:57 PM
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Aaawww... Ya ain't got a hair on yer @$$ if ya don't do vertical grain, there...

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Old Mar 08, 2010, 11:22 PM
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Only vertical grain? - what a wuss! Mine were 1/32" laminated cross grain to form 1/16" thick thingy's to make old-dudes TE V-box, as he put it.
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Old Mar 09, 2010, 09:31 AM
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First liar ain't got a chance!
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Old Mar 09, 2010, 10:31 AM
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Can we call it a "V" box trailing edge ??
I like that OD, has a catchy, kinda sailplaney, ring to it .
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