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Old Mar 03, 2010, 08:45 AM
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Building, yes, still going on me Oly. I'll be joining panels tonight and get it sheeted by this weekend. Seems not too far off now. I did cut some new tips that are more backward swept than the orig profile. Kinda like JW's Journey tips. I'll post some pics tonight just for S&G's I guess.

Cheers fellas,

Don
That'd be a great thing to read Don, though it will be morning here six hours away 'till I can read your updates because I got to got to bed just now. I received the dongle package today and spent the later part of tonight after work getting it fired up, and all seems well, so far.

As for building down here at Pt Vernon I won't start 'till we get a cooler dryer change of season, so my thoughts are starting to wander towards a primary winter build project which could mean the 4.3 meter XC, considering JW's Journey or a scale Baby Bowlus for the slope. In my heart I think putting in an order to Ray for the Sky Bench short kit of the Baby Bowlus will be the winner for winter 2010.

Check in later mate for your pics. Seems like you folks in the south-west US are getting to thaw out? Bet that is a nice feeling.
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Old Mar 03, 2010, 09:10 AM
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I'm gettin' ready to. Will it be on topic to ask about a real woody building question?

I want to make an Oly II with a 3-piece wing, 1-piece center section and removable tips, and I'm wondering if a "Bubble Dancer-type" spar work on an Oly II? What I'm thinking about doing is making up some "balsa ply" for solid shear webs for the entire 1/4 inch spruce spar in the center 4 bays, and capping the underside of both top and bottom spars with laminations of pre-preg CF. I've got some 0.007" CF that I can strip to 1/4 inch to do this with. Like with the Bubble Dancer, make it thicker at the center by laminating. I'm wondering if this will be as strong as using a steel joiner rod. It just doesn't make sense to me to build it with a center joiner rod and then glue the two center pieces together. (I'm thinking of doing some other wing bashing for it, too.)

Thots, anybody?
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Hi Owl, not to many thoughts yet due to constraints but give me time I might have some for what its worth when I can catch up to having the net time to play instead of work backtime.
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Old Mar 03, 2010, 09:20 AM
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No problem, Steve. It's not on the boards, yet. I'm not sure whether I'm even going to do an Oly II or a Riser 100, though whichever will still be the same basic question, as I want a 3-piece wing that I think will be easier to transport.

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Old Mar 03, 2010, 11:37 AM
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Well Steve, it's not long till we will have similar (decent) weather for the both of us. You going into Fall and us into Spring...we'll both be thrilled. I think the Bowlus would have to be the ultimate woodie build and I know you could do it up fine. Talkin about looking cool in the air, you could draw a crowd with it . Sure would put a spark back into the thread to have a scale beauti like that on the bench .

Last night I was able to trim TE's and dry fitted the poly joint for another super fit. Using my glass wang table and flipping the plan has really proven to produce two dimensionally identical wings. All trimmed and lasered in, I'm ready to glue it up tonight. Like I mentioned, I did cut new tip blocks that are backswept. I wanted a little flare on the tips and tried with the original profile but the TE of the tip kinda looked like a vanishing edge...here are a couple pics, I know...yawn .

When my boys were little, we all got laser pens for Christmas one year along with an Edmund Scientific laser experiment kit. The kit had a defraction grating and some other cool stuff to allow us to measure wavelength and such. About 12 years old now, the little diode laser is still going strong. It has a changable tip with a grating built in to allow me to shoot a line. Work great for lining up spars. The base I use is a last word indicator base from my grandfather...poor folks got poor ways .

Cheers,

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Old Mar 04, 2010, 09:31 AM
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Poor folks?
Don, you have some tools there that put me to shame!
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Old Mar 04, 2010, 01:22 PM
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Hey Mr. G,

I do have my share of precision tools which are very old. Papa was a tool and die cutter for Vought for most of his life. When he passed in '73, my father gave them all to me. OD and ID mics of various spans, various depth mics, radius gauges, calipers, indicators, etc. I lost a couple items in the fire but but most were upstairs. It ain't tools that make you wealthy but they do make you rich in other than monetary ways .

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Old Mar 04, 2010, 04:33 PM
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Beautiful and precise looking building, Don. You put me to shame!
The tips, I think I can tell that I want some like that already.
Your Grandad's tools are a real treasure, something to keep in the family hey.

Here's cheers and to better weather for everyone.
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Old Mar 04, 2010, 08:18 PM
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Hey Mr. G,

I do have my share of precision tools which are very old. Papa was a tool and die cutter for Vought for most of his life. When he passed in '73, my father gave them all to me. OD and ID mics of various spans, various depth mics, radius gauges, calipers, indicators, etc. I lost a couple items in the fire but but most were upstairs. It ain't tools that make you wealthy but they do make you rich in other than monetary ways .

Don

I've got a ton of them when my grandfather passed away. Only instead of working for Vought, he worked for Convair as a turbine machinist. I've got lots of dial indicators as well the the mics and a bunch of tool that I'm not really sure what the heck they're for. Up till now I haven't found much use for a lot of the stuff in modeling, but that stand with the laser now has me thinking! (Don, you should know better than to get me thinking!)
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Old Mar 05, 2010, 12:38 PM
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Thanks Steve but I hardly think I put anyone to shame . Get that Bowlus ordered dude, it'll be a sweet build .

What you thinkin about Jeff? Those little indicator bases can come in real handy for all sorts of things. Mount up some alligator clips or other type clamps and it's like having a 3rd hand . Yeah, don't use my stuff much anymore but did when I was building motors. They are indeed family treasures.
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Old Mar 05, 2010, 01:53 PM
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I think that the best treasure I found in all those tools was a little dog tag looking thing that showed that my grandfather had been on the team that got to tear apart the ME262 at the end of WW-II to find out what made them tick. He went on to help develop the engine for the first American jet. It's amazing where you can find little bits of family history at times.

When I get moved and am setting up the new man-cave I'll keep these tools more in mind and set up the building board in such a way as to be able to take advantage of them and what they can do!
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Old Mar 05, 2010, 05:37 PM
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Speaking of man-caves, that is my mission for this afternoon, men. Its been in a poor state of organisation since the move and demands immediate attention, lest any credits I might have as a builder will ebb away into the ether. I've put the models in a spare room, the shed was getting to hot through the summer days, but it should be good for building in winter. Been meaning to take some pics of it, too.

Jeff, that sounds like a top idea with the building area just for the specialist tools, I will bet that you would indeed find use for them if you do.
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Old Mar 05, 2010, 05:41 PM
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A very cool trinket to have Jeff and a cool story behind it. That old Messer looks like three fuses lined up. My favorite tools are the ones that are labeled with the old Dymo type labels that has his name and crib number on them. One in particular is a compact notebook drafting machine. Just slide in a a tablet of graph paper and you're off and drawing. Some of those type tools can be used for the hobby. Calipers, leveling blocks, compasses, etc. Plus would look cool displayed in the man-cave.
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Old Mar 05, 2010, 09:31 PM
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Shed Rescue Team!

Lil' old shed. The future venue of works of art, the art of BS, and some beer drinking and deep reflection.

Can't post a pic of the insides yet, they are not worthy of a picture.
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Old Mar 06, 2010, 08:19 AM
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EXCUSE ME?
Lil' old shed??? Hell, Steve you could build a full sized one in there.
I'm envious.
Gerald
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Old Mar 06, 2010, 11:32 AM
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Wow, I'm with Gerald! That's one helluva structure Steve. Now I got a place of my own when I come see . All I would required is a king size bed, night stand with a lamp, alarm clock, plush or short shag carpet (no berber, it feels weird on my feet), a small fridge...and, oh yeah, the single lady that used to own it
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