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Old Jan 11, 2003, 10:52 PM
Carl Farrington
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Sceadu alternate tail boom brace mounting

This solves a common problem, but also raises a question.=

If anybody has a recent-ish copy of MHW (Model Helicopter World), take a
look at the Sceadu advert on the back page.

Notice how the in-flight pictures show the tail-boom braces mounted ABOVE
the fuel tank. This makes the machine look FAR sleeker and sexier. I've been
calling this (admittedly only to myself) 'Freya style mounting', since all
the (admittedly not that many) pictures I've seen of Freyas have this
mounting.

This overcomes the problem of the bolts rubbing on the bottom of the fuel
tank, although granted one can simply shorten the bolts with a cutter to fix
the problem, but at least this way the problem isn't there to begin with.

I naturally assume that mounting in this way offers less boom-support than
the lower mounting position, naturally, I think its to do with leverage, but
I think anyone would agree on looking that the LOWER mounting position
offers a stronger fixation for the boom in the Y axis (up & down).

The Sceadu 30 manual that I have, does not even mention the existence of
these mounting holes, nethermind the choice to use. It just tells you to
mount the supports into the lower holes.

Does the group think this indicates that they should NOT be used ? Or would
the manual specifically say NOT to use them ? Can anyone forsee problems
using the upper mounts ? I myself am only hovering in the back yard, and so
if there is a possible issue then it would perhaps apply less so to me, but
I'm sure others given the choice would mount above the fuel tank.

Unfortunately the upper mounting hole is also a great place to mount a
Header Tank, so the tank doesn't like to be held infront of the boom
brace/support... more thought needed on this.


Old Jan 12, 2003, 03:02 PM
Carl Farrington
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Re: Sceadu alternate tail boom brace mounting

Did I come across as a bit of an impersonal twat in that post ? I didn't
mean to, sorry.

Do any sceadu owners out there mount their tail boom supports above the fuel
tank ?
I only really want to do it for the look.

thanks,

Carl


"Carl Farrington" <carl@000compsup000.net> wrote in message
news:avqro7$7kr$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk...
> This solves a common problem, but also raises a question.=
>
> If anybody has a recent-ish copy of MHW (Model Helicopter World), take a
> look at the Sceadu advert on the back page.
>
> Notice how the in-flight pictures show the tail-boom braces mounted ABOVE
> the fuel tank. This makes the machine look FAR sleeker and sexier. I've

been
> calling this (admittedly only to myself) 'Freya style mounting', since all
> the (admittedly not that many) pictures I've seen of Freyas have this
> mounting.
>
> This overcomes the problem of the bolts rubbing on the bottom of the fuel
> tank, although granted one can simply shorten the bolts with a cutter to

fix
> the problem, but at least this way the problem isn't there to begin with.
>
> I naturally assume that mounting in this way offers less boom-support than
> the lower mounting position, naturally, I think its to do with leverage,

but
> I think anyone would agree on looking that the LOWER mounting position
> offers a stronger fixation for the boom in the Y axis (up & down).
>
> The Sceadu 30 manual that I have, does not even mention the existence of
> these mounting holes, nethermind the choice to use. It just tells you to
> mount the supports into the lower holes.
>
> Does the group think this indicates that they should NOT be used ? Or

would
> the manual specifically say NOT to use them ? Can anyone forsee problems
> using the upper mounts ? I myself am only hovering in the back yard, and

so
> if there is a possible issue then it would perhaps apply less so to me,

but
> I'm sure others given the choice would mount above the fuel tank.
>
> Unfortunately the upper mounting hole is also a great place to mount a
> Header Tank, so the tank doesn't like to be held infront of the boom
> brace/support... more thought needed on this.
>
>



Old Jan 12, 2003, 04:12 PM
Andy Carpenter
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Re: Sceadu alternate tail boom brace mounting


No. Not a twat

I don;t use the higher holes. I figure the lower ones will give a more
rigid set-up. I know the Freya has both positions too. The *original*
prototypes used the lower holes. Now they use the higher ones !

I reckon if you are just learning it probably won't make too much difference
to you. I would suspect that only the hardcore super experienced three dee
pilots would notice.

BTW - Have you seen the angle of the boom supports on the 3DNT ?
--
Carps.

[http://www.carps.co.uk]

"Carl Farrington" <carl@000compsup000.net> wrote in message
news:avsk2a$a5p$1$8302bc10@news.demon.co.uk...
> Did I come across as a bit of an impersonal twat in that post ? I didn't
> mean to, sorry.
>
> Do any sceadu owners out there mount their tail boom supports above the

fuel
> tank ?
> I only really want to do it for the look.
>
> thanks,
>
> Carl
>
>
> "Carl Farrington" <carl@000compsup000.net> wrote in message
> news:avqro7$7kr$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk...
> > This solves a common problem, but also raises a question.=
> >
> > If anybody has a recent-ish copy of MHW (Model Helicopter World), take a
> > look at the Sceadu advert on the back page.
> >
> > Notice how the in-flight pictures show the tail-boom braces mounted

ABOVE
> > the fuel tank. This makes the machine look FAR sleeker and sexier. I've

> been
> > calling this (admittedly only to myself) 'Freya style mounting', since

all
> > the (admittedly not that many) pictures I've seen of Freyas have this
> > mounting.
> >
> > This overcomes the problem of the bolts rubbing on the bottom of the

fuel
> > tank, although granted one can simply shorten the bolts with a cutter to

> fix
> > the problem, but at least this way the problem isn't there to begin

with.
> >
> > I naturally assume that mounting in this way offers less boom-support

than
> > the lower mounting position, naturally, I think its to do with leverage,

> but
> > I think anyone would agree on looking that the LOWER mounting position
> > offers a stronger fixation for the boom in the Y axis (up & down).
> >
> > The Sceadu 30 manual that I have, does not even mention the existence of
> > these mounting holes, nethermind the choice to use. It just tells you to
> > mount the supports into the lower holes.
> >
> > Does the group think this indicates that they should NOT be used ? Or

> would
> > the manual specifically say NOT to use them ? Can anyone forsee problems
> > using the upper mounts ? I myself am only hovering in the back yard, and

> so
> > if there is a possible issue then it would perhaps apply less so to me,

> but
> > I'm sure others given the choice would mount above the fuel tank.
> >
> > Unfortunately the upper mounting hole is also a great place to mount a
> > Header Tank, so the tank doesn't like to be held infront of the boom
> > brace/support... more thought needed on this.
> >
> >

>
>



Old Jan 12, 2003, 04:22 PM
Carl Farrington
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Re: Sceadu alternate tail boom brace mounting

I hadn't noticed the three Dee NT boom supports, but I just went to their
website.. I can't even see any! - are they really that small ?

cheers Andy. I think I'll move them back above the tank, now that I've
mounted my header tank elsewhere
"Andy Carpenter" <andy@REMOVEcarpsTHE.coUPPER.ukCASE> wrote in message
news:avso6m$num$1@helle.btinternet.com...
>
>
> No. Not a twat
>
> I don;t use the higher holes. I figure the lower ones will give a more
> rigid set-up. I know the Freya has both positions too. The *original*
> prototypes used the lower holes. Now they use the higher ones !
>
> I reckon if you are just learning it probably won't make too much

difference
> to you. I would suspect that only the hardcore super experienced three

dee
> pilots would notice.
>
> BTW - Have you seen the angle of the boom supports on the 3DNT ?
> --
> Carps.
>
> [http://www.carps.co.uk]
>
> "Carl Farrington" <carl@000compsup000.net> wrote in message
> news:avsk2a$a5p$1$8302bc10@news.demon.co.uk...
> > Did I come across as a bit of an impersonal twat in that post ? I didn't
> > mean to, sorry.
> >
> > Do any sceadu owners out there mount their tail boom supports above the

> fuel
> > tank ?
> > I only really want to do it for the look.
> >
> > thanks,
> >
> > Carl
> >
> >
> > "Carl Farrington" <carl@000compsup000.net> wrote in message
> > news:avqro7$7kr$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk...
> > > This solves a common problem, but also raises a question.=
> > >
> > > If anybody has a recent-ish copy of MHW (Model Helicopter World), take

a
> > > look at the Sceadu advert on the back page.
> > >
> > > Notice how the in-flight pictures show the tail-boom braces mounted

> ABOVE
> > > the fuel tank. This makes the machine look FAR sleeker and sexier.

I've
> > been
> > > calling this (admittedly only to myself) 'Freya style mounting', since

> all
> > > the (admittedly not that many) pictures I've seen of Freyas have this
> > > mounting.
> > >
> > > This overcomes the problem of the bolts rubbing on the bottom of the

> fuel
> > > tank, although granted one can simply shorten the bolts with a cutter

to
> > fix
> > > the problem, but at least this way the problem isn't there to begin

> with.
> > >
> > > I naturally assume that mounting in this way offers less boom-support

> than
> > > the lower mounting position, naturally, I think its to do with

leverage,
> > but
> > > I think anyone would agree on looking that the LOWER mounting position
> > > offers a stronger fixation for the boom in the Y axis (up & down).
> > >
> > > The Sceadu 30 manual that I have, does not even mention the existence

of
> > > these mounting holes, nethermind the choice to use. It just tells you

to
> > > mount the supports into the lower holes.
> > >
> > > Does the group think this indicates that they should NOT be used ? Or

> > would
> > > the manual specifically say NOT to use them ? Can anyone forsee

problems
> > > using the upper mounts ? I myself am only hovering in the back yard,

and
> > so
> > > if there is a possible issue then it would perhaps apply less so to

me,
> > but
> > > I'm sure others given the choice would mount above the fuel tank.
> > >
> > > Unfortunately the upper mounting hole is also a great place to mount a
> > > Header Tank, so the tank doesn't like to be held infront of the boom
> > > brace/support... more thought needed on this.
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>



Old Jan 12, 2003, 04:33 PM
Andy Carpenter
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Re: Sceadu alternate tail boom brace mounting

They are not small. It is just the angle between them and the boom is only
about 5-10 degrees !

--
Carps.

[http://www.carps.co.uk]

"Carl Farrington" <carl@000compsup000.net> wrote in message
news:avsp1t$hh4$1$8302bc10@news.demon.co.uk...
> I hadn't noticed the three Dee NT boom supports, but I just went to their
> website.. I can't even see any! - are they really that small ?
>
> cheers Andy. I think I'll move them back above the tank, now that I've
> mounted my header tank elsewhere
> "Andy Carpenter" <andy@REMOVEcarpsTHE.coUPPER.ukCASE> wrote in message
> news:avso6m$num$1@helle.btinternet.com...
> >
> >
> > No. Not a twat
> >
> > I don;t use the higher holes. I figure the lower ones will give a more
> > rigid set-up. I know the Freya has both positions too. The *original*
> > prototypes used the lower holes. Now they use the higher ones !
> >
> > I reckon if you are just learning it probably won't make too much

> difference
> > to you. I would suspect that only the hardcore super experienced three

> dee
> > pilots would notice.
> >
> > BTW - Have you seen the angle of the boom supports on the 3DNT ?
> > --
> > Carps.
> >
> > [http://www.carps.co.uk]
> >
> > "Carl Farrington" <carl@000compsup000.net> wrote in message
> > news:avsk2a$a5p$1$8302bc10@news.demon.co.uk...
> > > Did I come across as a bit of an impersonal twat in that post ? I

didn't
> > > mean to, sorry.
> > >
> > > Do any sceadu owners out there mount their tail boom supports above

the
> > fuel
> > > tank ?
> > > I only really want to do it for the look.
> > >
> > > thanks,
> > >
> > > Carl
> > >
> > >
> > > "Carl Farrington" <carl@000compsup000.net> wrote in message
> > > news:avqro7$7kr$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk...
> > > > This solves a common problem, but also raises a question.=
> > > >
> > > > If anybody has a recent-ish copy of MHW (Model Helicopter World),

take
> a
> > > > look at the Sceadu advert on the back page.
> > > >
> > > > Notice how the in-flight pictures show the tail-boom braces mounted

> > ABOVE
> > > > the fuel tank. This makes the machine look FAR sleeker and sexier.

> I've
> > > been
> > > > calling this (admittedly only to myself) 'Freya style mounting',

since
> > all
> > > > the (admittedly not that many) pictures I've seen of Freyas have

this
> > > > mounting.
> > > >
> > > > This overcomes the problem of the bolts rubbing on the bottom of the

> > fuel
> > > > tank, although granted one can simply shorten the bolts with a

cutter
> to
> > > fix
> > > > the problem, but at least this way the problem isn't there to begin

> > with.
> > > >
> > > > I naturally assume that mounting in this way offers less

boom-support
> > than
> > > > the lower mounting position, naturally, I think its to do with

> leverage,
> > > but
> > > > I think anyone would agree on looking that the LOWER mounting

position
> > > > offers a stronger fixation for the boom in the Y axis (up & down).
> > > >
> > > > The Sceadu 30 manual that I have, does not even mention the

existence
> of
> > > > these mounting holes, nethermind the choice to use. It just tells

you
> to
> > > > mount the supports into the lower holes.
> > > >
> > > > Does the group think this indicates that they should NOT be used ?

Or
> > > would
> > > > the manual specifically say NOT to use them ? Can anyone forsee

> problems
> > > > using the upper mounts ? I myself am only hovering in the back yard,

> and
> > > so
> > > > if there is a possible issue then it would perhaps apply less so to

> me,
> > > but
> > > > I'm sure others given the choice would mount above the fuel tank.
> > > >
> > > > Unfortunately the upper mounting hole is also a great place to mount

a
> > > > Header Tank, so the tank doesn't like to be held infront of the boom
> > > > brace/support... more thought needed on this.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>



 


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