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Old Jul 03, 2009, 12:16 PM
Jesper Frickmann
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I got my stuff today - thanks!

I have a few questions for David:
  • The negative alligator clip does not have a bullet connector - can I have a replacement? (just the black alligator clip).
  • How am I supposed to connect the power supply I bought with it? I have attached a picture showing how it kinda works. But the positive jack is just sitting loosely in that hole - not good.
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Old Jul 03, 2009, 12:29 PM
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Not David however all of the Owner's Manual are available for down loading. Links are in the first post of this thread.


I would suggest cutting that connector off of the PS and attaching(soldering ) on female bullet connectors to match the bullet connector on the charger input.

Charles
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Old Jul 03, 2009, 02:42 PM
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I have a few questions for David:
  • The negative alligator clip does not have a bullet connector - can I have a replacement? (just the black alligator clip).
  • How am I supposed to connect the power supply I bought with it? I have attached a picture showing how it kinda works. But the positive jack is just sitting loosely in that hole - not good.
What the heck brand of power supply is that? I've only seen connectors like the one pictured on lawn equipment. Anyway, as Charles stated, cut it off and put on some bullet connectors. Best to stagger the positive and negative so they won't touch as easily.
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Old Jul 03, 2009, 02:59 PM
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I have a few questions for David:
  • The negative alligator clip does not have a bullet connector - can I have a replacement? (just the black alligator clip).
  • How am I supposed to connect the power supply I bought with it? I have attached a picture showing how it kinda works. But the positive jack is just sitting loosely in that hole - not good.
what is it's output? the power supply that is. get a set of ultra deans from your lhs. put the female end on the power supply. no possibility of shorting it out that way. if it's not at least a 12A supply your going to be able to only charge at like 5A or so.
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Old Jul 03, 2009, 03:18 PM
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What they said above...but to add a little. It's a DuraComm power supply, often used in CB radio applications. They are high quality and very durable, typical sale price of $100, I have some new for $30.

http://www.duracomm.com/desktoppower...tm#LP%20Series

http://www.theantennafarm.com/catalo...52a70b83a5fc9a

The connectors are SAE type connectors, often used in the automotive industry and used by DuraComm on many of their products. Cut 'em off and use what you want .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:SAE_Connector.png

Cheers,
David

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I have a few questions for David:
  • The negative alligator clip does not have a bullet connector - can I have a replacement? (just the black alligator clip).
  • How am I supposed to connect the power supply I bought with it? I have attached a picture showing how it kinda works. But the positive jack is just sitting loosely in that hole - not good.
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Old Jul 03, 2009, 09:19 PM
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OK. I will get some bullet connectors. I guess the point I was trying to make is: when I buy the power supply together with the charger I expect that they work together "out of the box". I also expected that the alligator clips were delivered in a working state, i.e. with bullet connectors on both, as advertised. I hope that the internal parts are better than the externals. So far, it works fine cycling a little 250mAh NiMH pack.
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Old Jul 03, 2009, 09:35 PM
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Just found similar alligators with bullets on Tower Hobbies' page: http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXSCN1&P=7
And bullet connectors for the PSU: http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXJPY6&P=7
I guess that just increased the price of my charger by $12.37
I have to say, this really leaves a bad first hand impression. Maybe I will mail that defective alligator clip to you, so you can see what I was talking about.
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Old Jul 03, 2009, 10:15 PM
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3.10 version is releasing!

Hello everyone,

Thank you for your continual support in our chargers.

Now, the latest upgrade software 3.10 version is releasing, here is the update notes: http://www.hillrc.com/UploadFiles/Re...s-iCharger.txt

The following items are upgrading software:
iCharger 1010B+'s upgrading software:
http://www.hillrc.com/UploadFiles/iC1010B+_V310.bin

iCharger 106B+'s upgrading software:
http://www.hillrc.com/UploadFiles/iC106B+_V310.bin

iCharger 208B's upgrading software:
http://www.hillrc.com/UploadFiles/iC208B_V310.bin

The users can also upgrade it by themselves, the only thing they should pay special attention is using our exclusive USB wire for upgrading.

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Old Jul 04, 2009, 02:38 AM
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Trouble with Upgrade to Version 3.10

Hello,

after flashing the new firmware, the iCharger didn't start again!

I did the folowing steps.

1. connect the icharger to the power supply
2. start the upgrader
3. connect the Junsi USB cable
4. choose the the founded icharger in the upgrader's menu
5. select the new firmware
6. press update
7. after the progress bar reaches 100% i get the message "update complete"
8. after this i disconnect the usb cable and the power supply
9. reconnect the iCharger to the power supply and i be horrified, i see only in the first line of the display all matrix dots displayed, the second line complete empty and the charger emitted an extreme high tone (very low noise, difficult to hear it)

(no difference when i flashed th update to version 3.09)

I have the strange feeling, that this is it to the charger... What can i do now? Is it possible the flash the firmware once again? When i now connect the iCharger again i see in the upgraders window the iCharger line (Type and serial number) choose it, also the bin file and press update, i receive after few seconds the message, that the device cannot be found...

Any ideas?

Thanks a lot

Franz
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Old Jul 04, 2009, 05:39 AM
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and what about 106B owners?
i deducted the following:

iCharger 106Bs upgrading software:
http://www.hillrc.com/UploadFiles/iC106B_V310.bin

is it ok?

[quote]If users press <Stop> or without any operation for 1 minute,...</quote>
15-20sec would be enough, just my pov
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Old Jul 04, 2009, 09:44 AM
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Maybe I will mail that defective alligator clip to you, so you can see what I was talking about.
Sure - please send it on back or shoot me a picture and we'll take care of it. As far as connections on the DuraComm supplies, I will make sure the product description is more clear on the connectors used.

- David
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Old Jul 04, 2009, 09:54 AM
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David,

It is sometimes difficult for some of us to imagine but many do not have extra connectors laying around, so do not even own a soldering iron or know how to use one.

Some will only purchase LiPolys from vendors that will install the connector of their choice.

May I suggest charging perhaps $5 more for the PS with matching bullet connectors pre-installed and perhaps offer the same service with the chargers output power leads ,Deans Ultras, APP, etc. . There are those who really want a plug n play solution.



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Old Jul 04, 2009, 10:09 AM
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David,

There are those who really want a plug n play solution.



Charles
Very likely far more than one suspects!
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Old Jul 04, 2009, 10:23 AM
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V3.10 loaded on my 208B perfectly. I love all of the new features, they work for me just as mentioned in the release notes. The IRís seem to be correct as well.

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Old Jul 04, 2009, 11:08 AM
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Exactly what Charles said. If you want to reach a broader audience, you need to assume that people are not "solder savvy" and that they expect things to pretty much work out of the box.

As for me, it's just a minor annoyance to have to order additional parts. I know how to solder and have a multimeter. And that was a good thing this morning. Because I had of course long forgotten that Hyperion wire their balance plugs a little differently, and that I had moved the most negative lead in order for it to work with my Blinky. So it kept reporting Error until I figured it out. After that, it did not report Error anymore. It reported Battery Check Over Voltage. So I searched this thread and found one guy who had the same problem and traced it to a bad solder in a Dean. Why was he using a Dean?? I thought you just hooked these up to the balance harness and started it. I connected the Dean and it charged happily. Next challenge was charging my FlightPower pack, where it reported Low Voltage. That was because the two most negative connectors are both connected to the same point. A 4S pack and a 6 pin plug. So I disconnected the most negative one and it worked. Apparently, the charger was thinking that it was a 5S pack with a dead cell. So my multimeter came to good use this morning!

And don't tell me to read the manual. Why should I do that when I think I know what I am doing

By the way, I got one of these "Squids" connectors from A Main: http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...xxas-Connector
Pretty nice I think. I got the charger from David because of the good deal on the DuraComm power supply .
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