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Old Jun 20, 2001, 07:26 PM
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must have gotten a bad one...

Flight # 31 for my ZAGI X, 0630 today, air temp about 65 F, no wind, overcast sky threatening to rain any moment.

The usual loops, practicing axial rolls, level off, make a left turn, loose visual orientation, splat! Not a particularly hard hit, not a whole lot of speed, maybe 30 feet high.

Oh well, no problem, it's a ZAGI, right?

Get over to the ZAGI X, canopy broken in two parts, battery tray totally destroyed. I mean totally. It's in four large pieces, some smaller parts are gone. Motor ripped off its mount, the wire tie cut right through the tray.

The worst of it? You guessed it right. The battery damaged the 555 rx

So these ZAGI's aint indestructable after all....

Called the ZAGI factory. They just happen to sell a canopy/battery tray kit, complete with new prop, velcro, etc. for $12 plus $4 S&H. Maybe by Saturday.


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Old Jun 20, 2001, 07:36 PM
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Did you have the receiver offset to one side?
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Old Jun 20, 2001, 07:52 PM
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Or better yet, behind the battery pack.

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Old Jun 20, 2001, 08:06 PM
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Larry,
I had the same thing happen to me when I first flew my 400X. I crashed from about 30 or so feet, and my canopy, battery tray, and receiver were pretty destroyed. I was actually able to glue my battery tray back together, but it wasn't pretty. My receiver, however, was managled like yours so I had to replace it.

I now have my receiver mounted off to the side of the battery, away from harms way Check out http://www.clubzagi.com , and read their tips page.

I like you was upset that my Zagi got "hurt", because I've heard that they are so strong.. The wing itself is actually really durable, but not the electronics of course! Also, the battery tray seems to be the first thing to break when the nose hits.

-steve
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Old Jun 20, 2001, 08:39 PM
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Was the receiver physically damaged or is it just not working now? If it is just not working you probably broke the crystal. You can buy them for $10-15.

Keith
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Old Jun 20, 2001, 09:18 PM
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Yes, Larry, the crystals are very fragile and can easily be damaged.
They sure are cheaper than a new RX.
But, we know who will win a fight between a 1 ounce RX and an 8 ounce battery.

Shawn
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Old Jun 21, 2001, 12:22 AM
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My crystal and receiver were damaged. My receiver was complete cracked and looked like someone stepped on it. I opened it up, and it appeared that one of the pots inside was cracked too. I figured it was toast.. At least I learned from it.

-steve
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Old Jun 21, 2001, 10:52 AM
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My Zagi damage list

2 recievers (I'm alittle slow, third reciever is off to the side).
1 set of HS55 gears (way to small).
1 set of HS81 gears (way to big of a crash).
4 sets of battery trays and canopys.
Now I got a turbo 450 setup and can see #5 batt tray just around the corner.(Hoppy, you and Buzzman get together and design us a new batt tray, OK?)
Oh ya, almost forgot, 1 zagi 1700 batt (50 feet + inverted loop + 1 battery [now flying by itself] + 1 rock = SMOKE)
And I'm having a blast doing it.

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Old Jun 21, 2001, 11:05 AM
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I think of Zagis as not so much "indestructable" as "less-destructable".


They _can_ take a lickin' and keep on tickin', but sometimes go *sproiing*...

--Bill
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Old Jun 21, 2001, 11:18 AM
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I have managed to glue/tape the tray/canopy together.

I have replaced the 555 with a 'superslim'. This one is mounted off to the side.

When I connect the battery to the ESC and the 555 rx, the servo's jitter for about 1/2 second. Then nothing.

At any rate, I flew it this morning
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Old Jun 21, 2001, 02:22 PM
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What does moving the rx to one side do to stability in such a light weight plane?
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Old Jun 21, 2001, 02:51 PM
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nybpete:
Well, most people hollow out some of the foam in the wing to put the rx to one side. You loose some weight from the foam, and add some weight from the rx. They won't quite balance, but I'm sure it's not that much of a problem. It would easily be accountable for with a little opposite-trim. Alternatively you could tape a penny to the opposite wing tip, and that would probably make up for it.

Myself, I bought my Zagi second hand, and the previous owner had hollowed out some foam underneath the battery tray in the nose, so I stuck my rx there. I've had no problems so far, and some pretty harsh impacts.

Larry:
You may be able to send your rx in for repair. Hitec may charge you for it, but I'm sure they won't charge you more than a new rx. It's been my impression, from what other people have told me, that Hitec is pretty awesome as far as customer service goes.
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Old Jun 21, 2001, 10:22 PM
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Most things about the 400X (vs the plain 400) are improvements.

The very big exceptions are the Rx placement and that stupid ridge that takes up the front 1 and 1/2" of the battery tray (takes away the ability for a wide range of CG adjustment).

I suggest to all 400X builders to put the Rx in the foam around the CG and to cut out that ridge, flip it over and glue/tape it in upside down so the whole thing is flat.
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Old Jun 22, 2001, 12:08 AM
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Do you have another crystal set you can plug in and try?
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