Sapac Composite T-45 Goshawk - Page 292

M.Huerta · Nov 01, 2009, 10:19 PM

ok thanks..i remember seeing the pics from ohio e jets a couple months ago and I never got around to asking

AIR SALLY · Nov 01, 2009, 10:32 PM

the full scale Hawks have bumps on the wing to cover the wheels ...i have a belly pan with bumps but i doubt that your gear are in the same place that mine are.you could try shiming the gear a bit to tilt the gear into the well a bit more.

viol8r · Nov 01, 2009, 11:45 PM

I thought about that, but then when deployed they'd have the same amount of inward angle

bdelapen · Nov 02, 2009, 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by viol8r

Has anyone built with MAP retracts and Sapac struts? I can't get my mains to retract fully into the wing , the strut hits the air cylinder and won't folly retract. I did try filing a little off the strut and it helped but to get it get the wheel all the way out of the airstream I'd have to file too much off and weaken the strut. Do they fully retract with the Sapac retracts?

Yes, The Sapac struts and Sapac retracts work together without interference and retract completely without adjustment when mounted into the supplied hard points. If your struts are hitting the air cylinder when retracted I would be concerned that you aren't achieving a positive lock and that the only thing holding them up is air pressure; this could pull the retracts out in high G maneuvers. Of course, this is not that big a deal when retracted vs. when deployed but still.

- Birger

viol8r · Nov 02, 2009, 06:40 PM

Thanks, looks like I'm going shopping again.Whats the point of retracts if they hang out and still cause drag.

j0e · Nov 04, 2009, 04:47 AM

Hi guys, i a thinking of buying this T 45 for a winter project. After reading all 292 pages i am comvinced that this model is so fun and quality!

As far as the setup is concerned, in case i will not find the kit with the motor and fan i am thinking of a HET 2W20 on 4s or 2W23on 5s for a start. Do you think these setups will hit 100mph?

Is there any other setup out there that can hit 120-125mph in 4s?

Another query i have is the weight of it on 4s. I am planning on some dsr retracts so i wonder if they will do the task cause i dont like messing with the air ones.

regards.

Jetnfast · Nov 04, 2009, 07:47 AM

The V2.1 with the motor and fan has yet to be listed on SAPAC's website, but you can call them (Janette) and they will give you a "kit" price with motor and fan. I think I paid $249.00 for the V2.1 w/motor and fan. You cant go wrong with this jet, the build has been very enjoyable so far although I dont think I will have her in the air before winter gets here, I might have to wait till spring/summer!

Cheers,
Jetnfast

j0e · Nov 04, 2009, 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jetnfast

The V2.1 with the motor and fan has yet to be listed on SAPAC's website, but you can call them (Janette) and they will give you a "kit" price with motor and fan. I think I paid $249.00 for the V2.1 w/motor and fan. You cant go wrong with this jet, the build has been very enjoyable so far although I dont think I will have her in the air before winter gets here, I might have to wait till spring/summer!

Cheers,
Jetnfast

w/motor and fan means without motor and fan or with motor and fan?

do you have a link where i can buy this jet from Japan? In rc-warbirds they dot have it in stock and i think is sold without the motor. I leave in Greece. Sapac America dont send here and i prefer to deal with Japan or China shops.

thanks for the response.

Bonanza · Nov 04, 2009, 11:37 AM

Hi guys, I need some servo advice: I purchaced a T-45 V2.1, and their retracts from SAPAC. Since I'm a fan of Hitec servos, I was planning to use the following servos: HS-65 HB for the Ailerons, Flaps, Rudder, and Retact Valve. For additional strength, HS-65 MG for the Steering and Elevators. I know the HS-65HB may be over-kill for the Retract Valve, so I may go for a less expensive servo for this application.

What do you guys think?

Regards, Bonanza

Racebelly · Nov 04, 2009, 12:29 PM

Joe,

w/fan & motor means "with". w/o means "without".

j0e · Nov 05, 2009, 07:49 AM

ok i am ready to order but i dont know if to buy the stock motor. what is the top speed it can reach with the stock motor? 100mph in level flight with 4s and retracts?

AIR SALLY · Nov 05, 2009, 11:20 AM

at least 100 mph

j0e · Nov 05, 2009, 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AIR SALLY

at least 100 mph

wow that was exactly what i wanted to hear!

It seams that the navy painted T-45 is sold out everywhere, but i found the red arrow version named as T-45 v.2 too. Are the v2 red arrow and navy colors the same model?

in espritmodel shop all have the same name T-45 GosHawk

http://www.espritmodel.com/index.asp...S&Category=762

bdelapen · Nov 05, 2009, 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by j0e

wow that was exactly what i wanted to hear!

It seams that the navy painted T-45 is sold out everywhere, but i found the red arrow version named as T-45 v.2 too. Are the v2 red arrow and navy colors the same model?

in espritmodel shop all have the same name T-45 GosHawk

http://www.espritmodel.com/index.asp...S&Category=762

The red arrows and the blue arrows are basically the exact same airplane except for 2 things, the color scheme and the red/blue arrows have ventral fins where the T-45 Navy has an arresting hook.

Regards,

- Birger

thedeuce · Nov 05, 2009, 11:35 AM

Joe,

The esprit model is the one made by eflight.
Eflight has it on their website.

http://www.e-fliterc.com/Products/De...ProdID=EFL8025

Nov 04, 2009, 11:37 AM	#4374
Bonanza Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Saugus, Massachusetts Posts: 6	Hi guys, I need some servo advice: I purchaced a T-45 V2.1, and their retracts from SAPAC. Since I'm a fan of Hitec servos, I was planning to use the following servos: HS-65 HB for the Ailerons, Flaps, Rudder, and Retact Valve. For additional strength, HS-65 MG for the Steering and Elevators. I know the HS-65HB may be over-kill for the Retract Valve, so I may go for a less expensive servo for this application. What do you guys think? Regards, Bonanza Last edited by Bonanza; Nov 05, 2009 at 06:43 AM. Reason: Clarification

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Nov 01, 2009, 10:19 PM	#4366
M.Huerta Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 630	ok thanks..i remember seeing the pics from ohio e jets a couple months ago and I never got around to asking

Nov 01, 2009, 10:32 PM	#4367
AIR SALLY deltas are cool Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Tehachapi ,CA. Posts: 7,750	the full scale Hawks have bumps on the wing to cover the wheels ...i have a belly pan with bumps but i doubt that your gear are in the same place that mine are.you could try shiming the gear a bit to tilt the gear into the well a bit more.

Nov 01, 2009, 11:45 PM	#4368
viol8r gravity,its the law Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Va.Beach,VA Posts: 100	I thought about that, but then when deployed they'd have the same amount of inward angle

Nov 02, 2009, 06:40 PM	#4370
viol8r gravity,its the law Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Va.Beach,VA Posts: 100	Thanks, looks like I'm going shopping again.Whats the point of retracts if they hang out and still cause drag.

Nov 04, 2009, 04:47 AM	#4371
j0e Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 71	Hi guys, i a thinking of buying this T 45 for a winter project. After reading all 292 pages i am comvinced that this model is so fun and quality! As far as the setup is concerned, in case i will not find the kit with the motor and fan i am thinking of a HET 2W20 on 4s or 2W23on 5s for a start. Do you think these setups will hit 100mph? Is there any other setup out there that can hit 120-125mph in 4s? Another query i have is the weight of it on 4s. I am planning on some dsr retracts so i wonder if they will do the task cause i dont like messing with the air ones. regards.

Nov 04, 2009, 07:47 AM	#4372
Jetnfast Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Misawa AB, Japan Posts: 107	The V2.1 with the motor and fan has yet to be listed on SAPAC's website, but you can call them (Janette) and they will give you a "kit" price with motor and fan. I think I paid $249.00 for the V2.1 w/motor and fan. You cant go wrong with this jet, the build has been very enjoyable so far although I dont think I will have her in the air before winter gets here, I might have to wait till spring/summer! Cheers, Jetnfast

Nov 04, 2009, 12:29 PM	#4375
Racebelly Vault-Tech Approved Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Simi Valley, CA Posts: 1,195	Joe, w/fan & motor means "with". w/o means "without".

Nov 05, 2009, 07:49 AM	#4376
j0e Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 71	ok i am ready to order but i dont know if to buy the stock motor. what is the top speed it can reach with the stock motor? 100mph in level flight with 4s and retracts?

Nov 05, 2009, 11:20 AM	#4377
AIR SALLY deltas are cool Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Tehachapi ,CA. Posts: 7,750	at least 100 mph

Nov 05, 2009, 11:35 AM	#4380
thedeuce Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Okotoks, Alberta (Canada) Posts: 365	Joe, The esprit model is the one made by eflight. Eflight has it on their website. http://www.e-fliterc.com/Products/De...ProdID=EFL8025