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Old Feb 10, 2008, 11:33 PM
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Laker freighter in Rough Water

Not exactly MODEL boat topic, but I was sent these photos last week, showing the MV Selkirk Settler, a modern Great Lakes Bulk Carrier, first photo shows her crossing Lake Superior during regular, typical sailing weather. The next series shows the same ship battling a very severe November storm, again on Lake Superior.
I know sometimes, people tend to forget just how bad the weather can get on the Great Lakes, and I do believe Lake Superior has a record of rivaling the most vicious storms. It is the largest and deepest of the five Great Lakes, capable of holding all the water of the other four lakes combined.
-Seeing these photos gives a good idea of what faced the Edmund Fitzgerald on her last, fateful trip.

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Old Feb 10, 2008, 11:46 PM
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The thing that boggles my mind most about those pictures is: that is fresh water!!!

amazing "seas"!!!

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Old Feb 11, 2008, 12:01 AM
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Holy... You're driving a submarine...
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Old Feb 11, 2008, 12:22 AM
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I have experienced conditions up to the fourth picture.
But that fifth one is unreal.
I don't think many yachts would survive that, but then we try to stay away from that kind of stuff.
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Old Feb 11, 2008, 12:29 AM
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that is fresh water!!!
Is that why it is a pretty blue?
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Old Feb 11, 2008, 05:54 AM
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seeing the photos, I would have never thaught a lake would be able to generate such rough water.

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Old Feb 11, 2008, 07:20 AM
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I've been in some nasty stuff on both the AE and DD but never had one broadside us like in that photo. Awesome picture!

"All hands stand clear of the weatherdecks..."

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Old Feb 11, 2008, 07:24 AM
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Old Feb 11, 2008, 07:46 AM
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i do wander however what kind of bending forces are being exerted on the hull during that kind of storm
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Old Feb 11, 2008, 09:29 AM
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Remember, that IS Superior. You should see it rough on Erie. I've had my 20' CC Runabout out fishing, the wind picked up, and we had 12 foot rollers we had to plow through SIDEWAYS to make it back to Harbour. The trip took forever to go 4 miles.We were all soaked, shivering and tired, but made it. The sun was shining the whole time...lol.
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Old Feb 11, 2008, 10:08 AM
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Salt water sailors often get seasick on the lakes. Out on the ocean you get nice long rollers. On the lakes the waves are short and tall. Erie is especially bad due to it being shallow and east to west. Superior being east to west also builds massive seas.
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Old Feb 11, 2008, 10:44 AM
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Can I buy a ticket for that cruise?

I’m looking for a nice trip to send the Ex-wife on. I think she’d look great in one of those pictures, lying on the sun deck…


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Old Feb 11, 2008, 10:57 AM
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You can search the photo galleries at Boatnerd.com to see some other foul weather pictures. Here are a few from Boatnerd.com.
"The wave" From the Sparrows Point (now Buckeye), November 1990 in heavy weather on Lake Michigan. Dave Cook.

CG 47304 entering the Grand Haven Channel. P. Zagorac

CG 47304 surfs the channel in Grand Haven. P. Zagorac
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Old Feb 11, 2008, 11:24 AM
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I’m looking for a nice trip to send the Ex-wife on. I think she’d look great in one of those pictures, lying on the sun deck…


I have a X that can join her...

Welcome to the best boat site around!

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Old Feb 11, 2008, 11:28 AM
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i do wander however what kind of bending forces are being exerted on the hull during that kind of storm
You'd have to ask the Edmond Fitzgerald that question. Several expeditions have and came back with conflicting answers.

When you consider that the lakes in many places aren't as deep as those ships are long, you get bizzare sea states.
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