X-Gear Build

jkarpy · Feb 04, 2008, 09:24 PM

X-Gear assembly Part 1

jkarpy · Feb 06, 2008, 10:33 PM

Final assembly

jkarpy · Feb 07, 2008, 11:44 PM

X-Gear Mounting option B strut. (Work in Progress)

jkarpy · Feb 07, 2008, 11:48 PM

X-Gear for AP (Work in progress)

Diggs · Mar 04, 2008, 07:37 PM

Thanks for this thread James. I just finished up my first set of the new gear following this. Pretty simple build. Although I didn't sand nor trim the excess. I couldn't find any to trim off

It is very solid, good improvement over the previous X-Gear!

Diggs

jkarpy · Mar 04, 2008, 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diggs

Thanks for this thread James. I just finished up my first set of the new gear following this. Pretty simple build. Although I didn't sand nor trim the excess. I couldn't find any to trim off

It is very solid, good improvement over the previous X-Gear!

Diggs

Thanks Diggs, it brings you back to the old plastic model day’s doesn’t it?

P.S.: Just don’t stick a firecracker in it!

Diggs · Mar 05, 2008, 12:26 AM

LOL, Yeah it did. And I got glue all over the place, just like the old days

Diggs

mbragdon · Mar 05, 2008, 09:39 PM

Very helpful thread, the glue is drying now.

seanpcola · Mar 22, 2008, 10:03 PM

I saw these at the Perry swap meet, came home and ordered a set for my Eratix. Did a little beef-up on it and think it is going to work fine. I know it was made for a smaller, lighter model but pretty sure I won't have any problems. IF it does not take the weight then I suggest we bombard Millenium with emails till they make us a bigger size too!

jkarpy · Mar 22, 2008, 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seanpcola

I saw these at the Perry swap meet, came home and ordered a set for my Eratix. Did a little beef-up on it and think it is going to work fine. I know it was made for a smaller, lighter model but pretty sure I won't have any problems. IF it does not take the weight then I suggest we bombard Millenium with emails till they make us a bigger size too!

We are considering smaller and larger sizes.

James

seanpcola · Mar 22, 2008, 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jkarpy

We are considering smaller and larger sizes.

James

Works for me!

Actually, after looking it over I was wondering about maybe even a version for quite a bit larger models. The problem I am seeing on rougher fieds is that most gear does not allow much "cushion". I wanted to experiment with your gear to see how much it flexed. I was even think things like making the fittings out of aluminum, of course much larger and longer rods and so forth. You may have really started something here.

I know it may be pushing it using the X gear on the Eratix but after comparing it more and more to the stock gear I seriously think it should work.

Plus, you can't beat the "bling" factor either!

ok_flyer · May 28, 2008, 01:32 AM

The X-Gear is a sweet upgrade. Nothing like getting rid of those flimsy, music wire rods that come stock from GWS. The foam wheels are just the right size and look great!

I would like to see a tail dragger mod similar to the X-Gear. I was trying to come up with one myself and decided to use the spare parts from my X-Gear kit to make one. Here's a link to the thread:

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=865847

rcproptester · May 29, 2008, 11:11 PM

I finally got the floats finished for my SSX. Just got them mounted tonight. I hope to do a dry run with them tomorrow after work, then down the road to the pond to try them out. Anything I should know before starting?

Wish me luck

jkarpy · May 30, 2008, 01:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jstone

I finally got the floats finished for my SSX. Just got them mounted tonight. I hope to do a dry run with them tomorrow after work, then down the road to the pond to try them out. Anything I should know before starting?

Wish me luck

Make sure the front half of the floats are in front of the CG.

rcproptester · May 30, 2008, 06:20 AM

I did that. the CG is right about 1 1/2 inches in front of the "step" in the float

Also, How did I post this in the x-gear thread? I meant to put it in the ssx thread

Feb 04, 2008, 09:24 PM	#1
jkarpy President of Millennium R/C Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 1,061	X-Gear Build X-Gear assembly Part 1 Attached Thumbnails Items needed for X-Gear assembly. Close nip cutters are not shown but are needed. 89.5 KB · Views: 577 Left and Right bottom strut: 72.4 KB · Views: 272 With fine grit, sand paper, rough up the surfaces to be glued. 71.5 KB · Views: 260 Cut away all mold flash 46.1 KB · Views: 242 Use close nip cutters to remove the ejector pin bump on part “I”. This pump can prevent the X-Gear from gripping the carbon rods. 44.5 KB · Views: 302 Test fit before glueing. No air gaps should be present between the two parts . Apply medium CA glue to all surfaces that make contact with joining part. 47.0 KB · Views: 255 47.7 KB · Views: 218 38.5 KB · Views: 218 No air gaps should be present between the two parts before or after clamping. 54.9 KB · Views: 202 Clamp the parts while they are drying. Allow the glue to dry completely before removing the clamps and installing part “L” and “J”. 63.4 KB · Views: 256 Main Strut: Again, with fine grit, sand paper, rough up the surfaces to be glued. 72.1 KB · Views: 219 Cut away all mold flash 46.2 KB · Views: 213 Apply medium CA glue to all surfaces that make contact with joining part. 50.7 KB · Views: 213 62.4 KB · Views: 173 48.5 KB · Views: 191 38.6 KB · Views: 198 41.6 KB · Views: 181 No air gaps should be present between the two parts before or after clamping. 57.7 KB · Views: 208 Clamp the parts while they are drying. 54.4 KB · Views: 182 78.5 KB · Views: 206 Wait until the CA glue has set to proceed to the next step. 92.1 KB · Views: 205 With fine grit, sand paper, rough up the bottom surfaces of the left and right bottom strut and the inside of part “L” and “J”. 60.9 KB · Views: 203 Apply medium CA glue to all surfaces that make contact with joining part. 55.5 KB · Views: 216 65.6 KB · Views: 203 Install parts L and J: Hold parts together while applying an accelerator to the glue. 59.2 KB · Views: 222 Do not install the remaining hardware until the CA glue has completely cured. I leave mine to dry over night. Even though the outside of the glue is dry to the touch, the inside is still curing. 78.8 KB · Views: 248 Last edited by jkarpy; Aug 20, 2009 at 12:24 PM.

Feb 06, 2008, 10:33 PM	#2
jkarpy President of Millennium R/C Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 1,061	X-Gear Build Part 2 Final assembly Attached Thumbnails Now that the CA glue has completely cured, you are ready to install the carbon and hardware. 92.1 KB · Views: 258 Start by pushing the hex nuts into their sockets. 60.1 KB · Views: 199 Use a blunt tool to push the hex nut into the socket. 55.8 KB · Views: 199 Install screws as per instructions. Do not tighten at this time. 80.7 KB · Views: 198 72.8 KB · Views: 191 70.7 KB · Views: 189 45.2 KB · Views: 198 79.0 KB · Views: 176 88.7 KB · Views: 209 55.6 KB · Views: 173 44.4 KB · Views: 187 55.7 KB · Views: 167 All the screws have been installed but not tightened. 70.1 KB · Views: 203 Install the wheels. Note: the X-Gear does not include wheels. 61.1 KB · Views: 250 73.1 KB · Views: 250 64.5 KB · Views: 287 60.4 KB · Views: 269 Cut off the excess screw length. 76.1 KB · Views: 217 Grind off the sharp edge of the cut screw. 73.9 KB · Views: 236 78.1 KB · Views: 298 Round off the tips of carbon 83.0 KB · Views: 221 35.3 KB · Views: 205 Insert the carbon into the lower strut Do not use a twisting action when you install the carbon into the plastic. It also helps to wrap a little Teflon tape around the end of the carbon before you insert it. 76.3 KB · Views: 221 80.4 KB · Views: 214 Align the wheels as close as possible to there final position and insert the carbon in the main strut. A slight toe in is preferred. Avoid twisting the carbon once it is inserted in the strut. The strut walls have ribs that help hold the carbon in place. 77.8 KB · Views: 247 Tighten all the screws until the carbon is secure. Never adjust the wheel position with the carbon tight. 68.7 KB · Views: 209 85.5 KB · Views: 413 Last edited by jkarpy; Apr 11, 2009 at 11:02 AM.

Feb 07, 2008, 11:44 PM	#3
jkarpy President of Millennium R/C Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 1,061	X-Gear Mounting option B strut. X-Gear Mounting option B strut. (Work in Progress)

Feb 07, 2008, 11:48 PM	#4
jkarpy President of Millennium R/C Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 1,061	X-Gear for AP (Work in progress) X-Gear for AP (Work in progress)

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Mar 04, 2008, 07:37 PM	#5
Diggs All Things That Fly Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 5,155	Thanks for this thread James. I just finished up my first set of the new gear following this. Pretty simple build. Although I didn't sand nor trim the excess. I couldn't find any to trim off It is very solid, good improvement over the previous X-Gear! Diggs

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Diggs All Things That Fly Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 5,155	LOL, Yeah it did. And I got glue all over the place, just like the old days Diggs

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mbragdon East Coast Slacker Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Berwick, Maine Posts: 131	Very helpful thread, the glue is drying now.

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seanpcola ein flugel schplinterizer Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Pensacola, FL Posts: 1,816	I saw these at the Perry swap meet, came home and ordered a set for my Eratix. Did a little beef-up on it and think it is going to work fine. I know it was made for a smaller, lighter model but pretty sure I won't have any problems. IF it does not take the weight then I suggest we bombard Millenium with emails till they make us a bigger size too!

May 28, 2008, 01:32 AM	#12
ok_flyer Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 11	The X-Gear is a sweet upgrade. Nothing like getting rid of those flimsy, music wire rods that come stock from GWS. The foam wheels are just the right size and look great! I would like to see a tail dragger mod similar to the X-Gear. I was trying to come up with one myself and decided to use the spare parts from my X-Gear kit to make one. Here's a link to the thread: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=865847

May 29, 2008, 11:11 PM	#13
rcproptester I beat Pud 3-4 days a week Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Adrian, GA Posts: 3,045	I finally got the floats finished for my SSX. Just got them mounted tonight. I hope to do a dry run with them tomorrow after work, then down the road to the pond to try them out. Anything I should know before starting? Wish me luck

May 30, 2008, 06:20 AM	#15
rcproptester I beat Pud 3-4 days a week Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Adrian, GA Posts: 3,045	I did that. the CG is right about 1 1/2 inches in front of the "step" in the float Also, How did I post this in the x-gear thread? I meant to put it in the ssx thread