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Old May 24, 2011, 05:48 PM
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my f15 is 16in w/s 24 lth i dont know what the weight will be yet ! will let you know ! trying to keep lite ! hey will the be full fuse or flat !
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Old May 24, 2011, 06:03 PM
Pusher jets rule!
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My Steve Shumate minis will be built up replicas just like his originals, only about 66% of original size. All made from 6mm depron still. We also have an F-4 and Saab Gripen in the works too.

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Old May 24, 2011, 06:22 PM
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YEAH AN F-4 !!!!!!!! look forward to that one for sure !!!!! what is the w/s and lenth !!!
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Old May 24, 2011, 07:50 PM
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About the same size as the mini profiles, around 18" WS average.

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Old May 24, 2011, 08:51 PM
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sound great pat ! looking forward to seeeing a couple in flight !
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Old May 25, 2011, 07:00 AM
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did you reinforce the control rods in the center so you dont get any flex ! i noticed on mine i needed to reinforce the center of rod for flex ! hope that helps !

i will see if i can post a pic later ! kwel !
thanks for tip. i made control rod supports- from depron. the rods were really flexing. i too thought it was the problem, but it made no difference in the end. i think its just a going slow/ tail heavy problem as it turns better going faster.

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Tail heavy + slow speed = limited to no manueverability.

CG should be 2" to 2.25" back from the main wing break (see pic).

Personally, I use a 3S 850 lipo in my plane, and it fits nicely right in the middle of the electronics bay. Anything 450 or smaller needs to go way up in the front of the bay to balance correctly. And a 3S lipo really wakes up the power system.


Anomalous - 80 grams is about half what my planes normally weigh. In my opinion, that's way too light. The plane does need some forward motion for the elevons to be effective. Don't be afraid to make the plane heavier. Besides, at about 170 grams it penetrates the wind very well, but can still be flown at slower speeds effectively.

Pat

i agree, and it needs a bigger battery so i should end up with more weight in the nose and that will take it over 100 grams AUW. in the mean time i'll add some weight and see if it helps. it does seem rather floaty in flight, and it needs to carry more momentum. im coming straight from making ultra micros where every gram saved is an advantage. still, its easy to add weight

ive now made a full canopy for my f22 out of depron. it slightly differnt to my previous attempt. its geldipac, which might bend to a shape a bit easier.

if anyone wants them i'll draw up and post the shapes to cut out
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Old May 25, 2011, 10:31 AM
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ive now made a full canopy for my f22 out of depron. it slightly differnt to my previous attempt. its geldipac, which might bend to a shape a bit easier.
I like that!
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Old May 25, 2011, 04:48 PM
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Jessie,

Here's the set of decals for you for Holloman AFB. All the lettering and symbols go on clear paper, cockpits go on white paper.

Pat
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Old May 25, 2011, 09:00 PM
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wow pat thanx that was quick ! now just a couple planes to paint for my buddy and my self ! again big thanx !
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Old May 27, 2011, 01:46 AM
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Love this 18" mini f22, built one myself and really loved the flying characteristic.
Awesome design!!

Was thinking if there is any plans based on the same built for a slightly bigger wingspan? So that i can fly higher and still see the plane haha...

Really love this F22!
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Old May 27, 2011, 08:55 AM
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Glad you like it!

A bigger 28" WS version is in this thread:

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=723890

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Old May 27, 2011, 04:13 PM
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well ive got the correct center of gravity now by moving the small 240mah battery as far forward as possible, and it is MILES better. tracks straight as an arrow on and off power, turns smoothly and reasonably quickly now i know it needs a bit of speed, and its quite fast considering its just a 10 gram motor and 2 cell. about the same as my 2 cell micro sukhoi which is pretty nippy and real fun. unlimited vertical with ease. its very light but breeze doesnt seem to hurt as long as your on the power. i really like it now i know how it needs to be flown. its still only 80 grams but its only got 180 grams thrust. i can see me converting this to 3 cell as i can see it can handle more !!

consider me a pusher jet convert
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Old May 27, 2011, 04:57 PM
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Glad you got the CG sorted! Yes, it makes all the difference in the world. It's nice have 2:1 thrust isn't it?

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Old May 27, 2011, 05:06 PM
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Now, go build more!

F-15 Eagle

F-18 E/F Super Hornet

SR-71 Blackbird

Eurofighter Typhoon

Saab Draken

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Old May 28, 2011, 07:18 AM
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Glad you got the CG sorted! Yes, it makes all the difference in the world. It's nice have 2:1 thrust isn't it?

Pat
yes, got to have good power to weight.

i was hoping for nearer 3:1 as the spec for the motor read 225 grams of thrust on a 5030 but its only about 180. maybe my battery is not good enough. its had some use. shame i cant do a lightweight 3 cell (3 x 240mah) with this motor as its 2 cell only.
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