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Old Nov 10, 2012, 05:53 PM
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Beautiful photo.

That's what it is all about!

Thanks for posting.

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Nice day at the pond today...
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Old Nov 10, 2012, 08:34 PM
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Nice, pic, dic..
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Old Nov 10, 2012, 08:46 PM
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Thanks guys....here's another...
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Old Nov 11, 2012, 08:06 AM
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Here is a nice shot of Wild Bill's Nirvana with beautiful homemade jib...
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Old Nov 11, 2012, 12:13 PM
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Since it seems quiet in here, and I have a lull in my jet boat foolishness, waiting for parts, hulls, motors from all over the world, , lemmie try out something for Nirvana..

As I give 2 about being a legal boat, and between my keel, sails, and other CIA sponsored secret stuff, aint no makin my boat legal, so, I wanna try a genoa..see what it acts like..sure will make it more unique..cant hurt, I already have panelled sails..just gotta lose the jib boom..maybe change the fulcum point on the main boom..

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Old Nov 11, 2012, 05:39 PM
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@Chidago:

Geno is great fun - the Sprinta-RC is the shining example IMHO...

I did a genoa on a little Discovery 500 a couple of months back. (Why? Because I could and nobody had!)

The genoa certainly picked the power up but made it much more work to sail (you have to haul the genoa across on each tack). I had to increase keel weight by about 220g to get it sailable...

Big challenge was setting up the genoa winching. You need a lot of travel to haul the genoa across from side to side. On the 500mm Disco, genoa loop travel needed was about 400mm, and you neeeed to be able to haul around the shrouds and mast without catching anything....

I finished up using two separate winches, one for mainsail, one for genoa - winches are both on the one stick, mainsail = up & down, genoa is left and right - stick is non-centring both axes.

See it sailing here:
Discovery 500 Genoa prototyping Phase 3 - sail test (3 min 25 sec)
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Old Nov 11, 2012, 06:43 PM
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Well, thanks Mr P..thats what I'm lookin at now, how simple I can make the geometry..also, I'm not willing to change the outside appearance of the boat, so its gonna be a ...played with thing for 3 hrs already, with no good answer..

But, its known I'm 7/10th silly, so, it'll come in sooner or later..

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Old Nov 11, 2012, 10:50 PM
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Thanks guys....here's another...
Maybe you could have used some of our wind!!!

Today the pond we race in had at least 40KMH gusts and strong winds.
You had to have your hat tied on tightly!

We never got as far as setting out buoys, thought we'd just see if it was possible to sail first.
It was, just barely, a few of us got blown into shore a few times.
All boats were Vics, except mine.
The little Nirvana impressed the Vic captains with her ability to sail in these conditions.

We had whitecaps!!

My friend Paul Charles took these pictures, good shots!
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Old Nov 11, 2012, 11:03 PM
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Those are some terrific shots!! Love the submarine action! Looks like a lot of great down wind sailing going there!
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Old Nov 11, 2012, 11:31 PM
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Yeah, Rick, good pics..

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Old Nov 12, 2012, 07:55 AM
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Those are some terrific shots!! Love the submarine action! Looks like a lot of great down wind sailing going there!
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Thanks Boomer1,
Where we were standing on the little dock, we were facing directly into the wind, so each time we brought them back home, it was perforce "downwind" .

My Tilley hat, tied to my head, usually had the brim blown up and back, sort of bowery boys style.
At least it was sunny and not raining and freakishly warm, 18˚ Centigrade, high tomorrow only 4 degrees.
Normal around here this time of year is about 9-10 degrees.
Went to the Remembrance day service in the AM.
First time in memory that we weren't standing around freezing or getting wet for hours.
The weather is getting really strange since we warmed up the planet.

Had some water inside my boat whan I got home.
Don't know exactly how it got in, but under the circumstances, it's not really surprising.
Put a fan on my open radio box for a few hours.
Everything inside is coated with Corrosion X, so I hope that is doing it's job.

I would have stayed longer, it was a nice day, the sailing was exciting, but my ride/drive down there was sailing a Victoria and he wasn't going to sail any longer, so we left.

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That's how it was supposed to be here this weekend!

Great shots...I can never get any like that because it take 2 hands to sail in that weather and the camera is impossible to do while sailing with 2 hands already busy....

There is some pretty cool raw video that just went up on the Yamaha thread in similar conditions yesterday.
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Old Nov 12, 2012, 08:38 AM
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Yeah, Rick, good pics..

John, as you imagine, the crew got wet.

Also glad I put that drain plug in, as there was quite a bit (half a cup), of water inside the hull.
It's (the plug), just visible in bottom right corner.
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Old Nov 12, 2012, 09:10 AM
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Reference loose footed jib sail...

...you could try that sail without much changing. The schooner I sail just uses loose footed jibs. You loosen or tighten when changing tacks...no big deal.

Just remove the jib boom and run the sail loose...see how it does then try a genoa and see how it does.

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Old Nov 12, 2012, 09:13 AM
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Great shots...I can never get any like that because it take 2 hands to sail in that weather and the camera is impossible to do while sailing with 2 hands already busy....

There is some pretty cool raw video that just went up on the Yamaha thread in similar conditions yesterday.
I know what you mean.
As it turns out Paul was there first and tried to sail with his Vic, but found it too windy.
So when the rest of us arrived a bit later and decided to give it a go, he dug out his camera and was the "official" photographer for the group.
He did a great job.

I handed him my TX so he could try the Nirvana for a bit.
He was impressed with it, which is saying a lot, as has 21 model sailboats and one large full size sailboat.
(Including a a pair of Soling Ms and an A class boat that I know of.)
The Nirvana would come about in much stiffer wind than the Vic could, probably due to the extra weight and the huge rudder.
I was proud of my little boat in the hands of an expert skipper.
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