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Old Jun 18, 2012, 03:10 PM
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Just to clarify, I didn't move the jib forward, I moved the eyelet forward by installing a new one.
I don't get what moving the eyelet does to help performance? You haven't really changed anything...
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Old Jun 18, 2012, 03:33 PM
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Improves jib shape, hence performance. You can also ask Steve as I believe he has made this change on some boats, I think the #30 he just sold has this mod. Disclaimer: Any improvement in performance my boat experiences is no guarantee of improved performance by any other boat with these same mods, as skipper, wind speed, wave height, turtles, weeds, ambient temperature, and beverages consumed may affect your results.
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Old Jun 18, 2012, 04:22 PM
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[QUOTE=seabee CE;21931061]Improves jib shape, QUOTE]

ah so grasshopper...

But it won't matter because I'm going to keel haul ya anyway...
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Old Jun 18, 2012, 04:24 PM
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Improves jib shape, QUOTE]

ah so grasshopper...

But it won't matter because I'm going to keel haul ya anyway...
Will add your name to the long list of skippers that have done that.
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Old Jun 18, 2012, 05:58 PM
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Improves jib shape, hence performance. You can also ask Steve as I believe he has made this change on some boats, I think the #30 he just sold has this mod. Disclaimer: Any improvement in performance my boat experiences is no guarantee of improved performance by any other boat with these same mods, as skipper, wind speed, wave height, turtles, weeds, ambient temperature, and beverages consumed may affect your results.
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1665550

POST #13, I sure hope they shipped today, I think I'm getting a great first boat.

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Old Jun 18, 2012, 06:33 PM
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http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1665550

POST #13, I sure hope they shipped today, I think I'm getting a great first boat.

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you made a fine choice

welcome to the forum!!

sweet grafixs on that boat
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Old Jun 18, 2012, 06:41 PM
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Sweet boat...I almost pulled the trigger on her myself...but I captured and refitted another instead...

Oh and welcome to the Nirvana world and this thread....
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Old Jun 19, 2012, 05:53 AM
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One of the most overlooked (for me at least) adjustment to reduce weather helm was opening up the mainsail angle in relation to the jib. Many pages back I posted some comments on some semi extreme measures I tried to reduce the weather helm. Them I got a PM (I forget who but it was much appreciated) suggesting I check the boom angle. Sure enough I had it pulled in more than it should have been. After making the adjustment the Nirvana's weather helm became much more controllable.
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Old Jun 19, 2012, 07:01 AM
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Mangus, I also adjusted that angle, I think I have 12 degrees on the jib and 10 on the mainsail and that along with the afore mentioned changes has given me the best handling boat I have ever had.
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Old Jun 19, 2012, 09:23 AM
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Mangus, I also adjusted that angle, I think I have 12 degrees on the jib and 10 on the mainsail and that along with the afore mentioned changes has given me the best handling boat I have ever had.
Seabee,

Is that angle (10 and 12 deg. set at full in with the sheets, i.e., or at another
position?

I moved my stays back to 17" and are tight. This still pulls the mast a bit forward and I have lowered the jib as far as I can, I think, Sat. is supposed to be real windy around here so it will be a good test.

Bud
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Old Jun 19, 2012, 10:42 AM
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Seabee,

Is that angle (10 and 12 deg. set at full in with the sheets, i.e., or at another
position?

I moved my stays back to 17" and are tight. This still pulls the mast a bit forward and I have lowered the jib as far as I can, I think, Sat. is supposed to be real windy around here so it will be a good test.

Bud
That is full in, but again, this works for me and every boat has variables so this is worth what you paid for it. If you get 10 responses, you will probably have 10 options.
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Old Jun 19, 2012, 11:16 AM
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I set mine up a with the main boom admidships (with as little free play as possible) while the jib points slightly further out than the shrouds....this is where Steve said it should be and it is working well for me on the Vulture. I also keep the boom vang tensioned as tight as possible with the stock setup.
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Old Jun 19, 2012, 05:13 PM
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Several years ago when we started sailing with our ODOMs the more experenced sailors told us that with the sails sheeted in that the main boom should be pointed halfway between the centerline and the side of the boat while the jib should point toward the shrouds. Of course this works best for our winds in Hawaii, but each area has its own wind conditions to deal with.
When I received the Westward 18 the sails were set along the centerline with the wind at the pool the boat sailedlike a block of wood. I pulled the boat out and adjusted the booms and boats sailed a lot better. Still pushed around by the wind blowinfg between 10 and 20 mph per weather man. Will have to try sailing it later this week when the wind dies down some
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Old Jun 19, 2012, 09:44 PM
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Ahhh..nice to see everybody yappin..

I am hoping to get out on parole by the end of the month, I stop by and check, but, as I'm fryin some personal fish, cant be my usual, friendly, comforting, understanding and tolerant self..

Thanks for all the messages and emails, you are all friends, GOOD friends, and are highly appreciated.

Just consider me in the pits idling, still good to go..

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Old Jun 20, 2012, 06:24 AM
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Good to see ya posting John...get well soon brother....
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