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Old Jul 05, 2011, 02:58 PM
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Thanks Boomer...just out of curiosity, how long is the wait on a order from England?
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Old Jul 05, 2011, 04:05 PM
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It may take a week give or take a day. They ship airmail, so it doesn't take long.
In the past I had been buying them from Radio Yacht Supplies from down under.
Great service, nice guy etc. but I found out I could buy direct from the source, and save some money.
I buy 5 at time and use them for the shrouds and back stay on all of my boats. I got the Pekabe fittings for the 2nd Yamaha I am building. They are really nice looking but a tad pricey.
If you look at the any of the recent pictures of my new Nirvana, you'll see them on there as well.

I get the SS leader and sleeves from http://www.southcreekshop.com/AFW-Su...essLeader.html

This link takes you to the correct page - any questions - give me a call
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Oh, the clevis you show are steel with some plating - might rust.............just sayin............
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Old Jul 05, 2011, 05:27 PM
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the peakabe Single Turnbuckle won't work on a nirvana. reason being is the hole needed is about a 1/8", or so. you would not have enough meat to safely hold the mast up. i use these on my USOM. too big for a nirvana. i get picked on for using them by the guys i sail with due to there weight.
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Old Jul 05, 2011, 06:18 PM
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the peakabe Single Turnbuckle won't work on a nirvana. reason being is the hole needed is about a 1/8", or so. you would not have enough meat to safely hold the mast up. i use these on my USOM. too big for a nirvana. i get picked on for using them by the guys i sail with due to there weight.
Doom,
I am confused. I have installed them on two different Nirvana's, Seawind, Yamaha RTW, Monsoon and others. These rigging screws come in severals diameters, perhaps yours are larger??

There is no problem installing them on a Nivana. If it matters Crash is thinking of using them on his new Yamaha, not on his Nirvana fleet.

Look at the pictures below to see how nicely the Rigging screws or single turnbuckles work on a Nirvana. Chidago uses Great Plains non metallic style Clevis on his Nirvana. Many ways to get to a higher quality set up.

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Old Jul 05, 2011, 06:55 PM
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Aint that peekaboo stuff expensive? and does it do things better??


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Old Jul 05, 2011, 07:01 PM
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Rick,
your boat looks soo nice now, re-striped and all..peekaboo fittings, etc..

When you gonna drop some of that first communion money for real sails?
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Old Jul 05, 2011, 07:04 PM
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If you were to review my posting, you'd see my comment about the Pekabe being "a tad pricey" - again, we agree. Do they work any better? Only in that they can be unlatched with out unscrewing the turnbuckle.

Were you to see them in person, you'd see that they are very nicely made and why they are more expensive

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Old Jul 05, 2011, 07:18 PM
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Uuum..so do the DuBro models, they are a snap fit..but, I just wanted to bust your stones a bit...

On a serious note, tho, git to gettin some sails, bro..
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Old Jul 05, 2011, 09:00 PM
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Me too.
I am still messing with my Nirvana with the stock sails to see just how well I can get it to sail.
A set of sails from Dennis will be the icing on the cake.
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Old Jul 05, 2011, 09:04 PM
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Cake gonna dry out with no icing on it, ya know...

Gotta do the deck, too, its lookin to nice now for all that tiller junk hangin out....
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Old Jul 05, 2011, 10:35 PM
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Doom,
I am confused. I have installed them on two different Nirvana's, Seawind, Yamaha RTW, Monsoon and others. These rigging screws come in severals diameters, perhaps yours are larger??
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Boomer click in the link in my post. it's the quick release ones i'm talking about. not the one on your nirvana. yours would be fine due to it using a piece of piano wire for the hook.

i went back to see if they come in smaller sizes, but only saw the one i use on my USOM. much too big for a nirvana. not to mention being $12.25. i forget if that was for 1, or 2. i think it was a pair.
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Old Jul 05, 2011, 10:42 PM
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If you were to review my posting, you'd see my comment about the Pekabe being "a tad pricey" - again, we agree. Do they work any better? Only in that they can be unlatched with out unscrewing the turnbuckle.

Were you to see them in person, you'd see that they are very nicely made and why they are more expensive

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i take it you still have a bowsie on your side, and aft stay lines? if so it kinda defeats having the turn buckle on the line. if not how do you remove the line without loosening the turn buckle? or do your sails stay rigged on the boat? mine come off at the end of the day.
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Old Jul 06, 2011, 12:38 AM
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i take it you still have a bowsie on your side, and aft stay lines? if so it kinda defeats having the turn buckle on the line. if not how do you remove the line without loosening the turn buckle? or do your sails stay rigged on the boat? mine come off at the end of the day.
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There is no need for bowsies with the rigging screws. They are fully adjustable thus replacing the bowsies.
There is a lock nut on each one that tightens against the top of the cylinder or barrel of the turnbuckle - Once you have adjusted the tension on each sheet and the backstay, you just spin the lock nut in place and you are done. Piece of cake!
To remove the mast, I hold the lock nut and spin the barrel - (which is stays attached to the hull.) and release the forestay hook (stock) and it's done.

When I am ready to sail it again, I just spin each barrel or cylinder on to the top of each rigging screw and the sails are tuned exactly as I had them before.

This what this little guys are designed for. Oh, they are not heavy. I still have a bowsie on the forestay.

If one wanted to install the Pekabe fittings you could use a shackle - or a stainless split ring that would attach to the Nirvana's factory block. I wouldn't use them on a Nirvana - but on a larger boat that was more sophisticated, for sure. (like the Yamaha RTW)


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Old Jul 06, 2011, 06:33 AM
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Some good stuff here guys....I'm glad I asked about turnbuckles.

Ok...having soaked all this in and taken everything into consideration....here is my choice and why... not necessarily in order.

1. cost
2. color
3. style
4. ease of use
5. size/weight

1. As some of you know I'm the sole family income on social worker wages....I can't spend a lot...so I need to compromise on some of the cool but expensive things. Cost is a huge factor for me.

2. I don't like the look of the black or even brass fittings for the boat this is going on. The steel/alum is much more to my liking, it matches the stainless rigging it will be holding.

3 & 4. My boats are assembled and disasembled at the pond every time I use them...so I need a fast-n-easy way to put them together. This style allows for more than one way to remove the shrouds from the boat. I can unscrew the barrel or just pop open the clevis which is more to my liking.

5. The 2-56 size should be more than strong enough to handle the needs in my pond. We don't have strong winds as a general rule...and I like the look of the smaller size.

So there ya have it...I will be going with the Deluxe 2-56 pull pull system by Great Planes...

Thanks for all the work you guys did in posting all the info on these products.
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Old Jul 06, 2011, 06:42 AM
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I located another inexpensive alternative for the stays/shrouds. It has good reviews, and I have a Bass Pro Shop on the way home from work.

At $3.69 per 30’ of 30lb test with sleeves…this is a no brainer for me.

http://www.basspro.com/Malin-Malon7-...53195/-1015097

Here's the decription:

Malin's Malon-7 wire is comprised of seven individual strands that are sheathed in together in a nylon coating. The smooth nylon finish combined with the wire's superior strength and excellent flexibility makes Malon-7 a great choice for making all kinds of rigs and leaders. 30' pouch includes sleeves.
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