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Old Dec 12, 2002, 01:29 PM
TJM
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What's a good R/C helicopter kit for a newbie ???

Hi all,

I am interested in joining the R/C helicopter hobby, but I am a total
beginner and dont know where to start. Would it be better to take a
tutorial at the local hobby club to learn how to fly & maintain a heli, or
should I just buy one and learn on my own? Are there any good videos or
software that make learning easier? Can anyone recommend a cheap beginner
heli (under $1000)?

Also, I have future aspirations to own & pilot a real helicopter....do R/C
helis teach you the fundamentals to fly a real whirly bird?

Thanks for all your help,
TJM


Old Dec 12, 2002, 01:58 PM
John Banks
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Re: What's a good R/C helicopter kit for a newbie ???

Century helis are by far the best helicopters in the whole wide world.
You'd be foolish not to buy one.

DO NOT touch Thunder Tiger....THEY SUCK! They don't fly very good at all.

Very very rubbishy really.

CENTURY - HELIS FIT FOR JEHOVAH!



"TJM" <tjm@cyberjunkie.com> wrote in message
news:uvhlc0pti1e79@corp.supernews.com...
> Hi all,
>
> I am interested in joining the R/C helicopter hobby, but I am a total
> beginner and dont know where to start. Would it be better to take a
> tutorial at the local hobby club to learn how to fly & maintain a heli, or
> should I just buy one and learn on my own? Are there any good videos or
> software that make learning easier? Can anyone recommend a cheap beginner
> heli (under $1000)?
>
> Also, I have future aspirations to own & pilot a real helicopter....do R/C
> helis teach you the fundamentals to fly a real whirly bird?
>
> Thanks for all your help,
> TJM
>
>



Old Dec 12, 2002, 02:08 PM
TJM
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Re: What's a good R/C helicopter kit for a newbie ???

I perused the Century site and they do seem to have some nice models. One
thing I noticed is that they are all gas-powered engines, no? Are electric
helis better or worse than gas-powered, and why?

Thanks again...
TJM


"John Banks" <zoomerman@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
news05K9.5415$721.4303@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk...
> Century helis are by far the best helicopters in the whole wide world.
> You'd be foolish not to buy one.
>
> DO NOT touch Thunder Tiger....THEY SUCK! They don't fly very good at all.
>
> Very very rubbishy really.
>
> CENTURY - HELIS FIT FOR JEHOVAH!
>
>
>
> "TJM" <tjm@cyberjunkie.com> wrote in message
> news:uvhlc0pti1e79@corp.supernews.com...
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I am interested in joining the R/C helicopter hobby, but I am a total
> > beginner and dont know where to start. Would it be better to take a
> > tutorial at the local hobby club to learn how to fly & maintain a heli,

or
> > should I just buy one and learn on my own? Are there any good videos or
> > software that make learning easier? Can anyone recommend a cheap

beginner
> > heli (under $1000)?
> >
> > Also, I have future aspirations to own & pilot a real helicopter....do

R/C
> > helis teach you the fundamentals to fly a real whirly bird?
> >
> > Thanks for all your help,
> > TJM
> >
> >

>
>



Old Dec 12, 2002, 02:12 PM
TJM
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Re: What's a good R/C helicopter kit for a newbie ???

The Hawk Sport does seem like a good beginner helicopter, and great price to
match! Are gas-powered helis the best for beginners? I would think
electric-powered helis are lower maintenance machines, although the gas
models provide more realism. Whats the main differences between gas &
electric powered helis?

Thanks.....TJM


"GYRO" <Roto@golden.net> wrote in message
news:%S4K9.4404$Ex6.1000574@news20.bellglobal.com. ..
> Go to http://www.centuryheli.com
> Check out Century's new Hawk Sport. R /C Heli's will teach you yhe basic
> theory & mechanics of full scale helicopters!
> Have fun
> "TJM" <tjm@cyberjunkie.com> wrote in message
> news:uvhlc0pti1e79@corp.supernews.com...
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I am interested in joining the R/C helicopter hobby, but I am a total
> > beginner and dont know where to start. Would it be better to take a
> > tutorial at the local hobby club to learn how to fly & maintain a heli,

or
> > should I just buy one and learn on my own? Are there any good videos or
> > software that make learning easier? Can anyone recommend a cheap

beginner
> > heli (under $1000)?
> >
> > Also, I have future aspirations to own & pilot a real helicopter....do

R/C
> > helis teach you the fundamentals to fly a real whirly bird?
> >
> > Thanks for all your help,
> > TJM
> >
> >

>
>



Old Dec 12, 2002, 02:15 PM
David Smith
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Re: What's a good R/C helicopter kit for a newbie ???


"John Banks" <zoomerman@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
news05K9.5415$721.4303@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk...
> Century helis are by far the best helicopters in the whole wide world.
> You'd be foolish not to buy one.
>
> DO NOT touch Thunder Tiger....THEY SUCK! They don't fly very good at all.
>
> Very very rubbishy really.
>
> CENTURY - HELIS FIT FOR JEHOVAH!


I think we should start a movement back to fixed pitch helis with no gyros &
4 channel radios - fundamentalist helis!

Dave S
>
>
>
> "TJM" <tjm@cyberjunkie.com> wrote in message
> news:uvhlc0pti1e79@corp.supernews.com...
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I am interested in joining the R/C helicopter hobby, but I am a total
> > beginner and dont know where to start. Would it be better to take a
> > tutorial at the local hobby club to learn how to fly & maintain a heli,

or
> > should I just buy one and learn on my own? Are there any good videos or
> > software that make learning easier? Can anyone recommend a cheap

beginner
> > heli (under $1000)?
> >
> > Also, I have future aspirations to own & pilot a real helicopter....do

R/C
> > helis teach you the fundamentals to fly a real whirly bird?
> >
> > Thanks for all your help,
> > TJM
> >
> >

>
>



Old Dec 12, 2002, 02:16 PM
John Banks
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Re: What's a good R/C helicopter kit for a newbie ???

For an electric heli to be any good, you'd have to spend more than you would
on a similar spec'd IC (glow) powered model. This is due to the cost of
brushless motors, speed controllers, battery packs and chargers. A good
motor setup (all the aforementioned bits) would cost around $500 alone. A
good 30 glow engine is $120. Get the picture?

John


"TJM" <tjm@cyberjunkie.com> wrote in message
news:uvhnlep677et1d@corp.supernews.com...
> I perused the Century site and they do seem to have some nice models. One
> thing I noticed is that they are all gas-powered engines, no? Are

electric
> helis better or worse than gas-powered, and why?
>
> Thanks again...
> TJM
>
>
> "John Banks" <zoomerman@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
> news05K9.5415$721.4303@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk...
> > Century helis are by far the best helicopters in the whole wide world.
> > You'd be foolish not to buy one.
> >
> > DO NOT touch Thunder Tiger....THEY SUCK! They don't fly very good at

all.
> >
> > Very very rubbishy really.
> >
> > CENTURY - HELIS FIT FOR JEHOVAH!
> >
> >
> >
> > "TJM" <tjm@cyberjunkie.com> wrote in message
> > news:uvhlc0pti1e79@corp.supernews.com...
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I am interested in joining the R/C helicopter hobby, but I am a total
> > > beginner and dont know where to start. Would it be better to take a
> > > tutorial at the local hobby club to learn how to fly & maintain a

heli,
> or
> > > should I just buy one and learn on my own? Are there any good videos

or
> > > software that make learning easier? Can anyone recommend a cheap

> beginner
> > > heli (under $1000)?
> > >
> > > Also, I have future aspirations to own & pilot a real helicopter....do

> R/C
> > > helis teach you the fundamentals to fly a real whirly bird?
> > >
> > > Thanks for all your help,
> > > TJM
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>



Old Dec 12, 2002, 02:18 PM
David Smith
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Re: What's a good R/C helicopter kit for a newbie ???

"TJM" <tjm@cyberjunkie.com> wrote in message
news:uvhnshtdfe7q6c@corp.supernews.com...
> The Hawk Sport does seem like a good beginner helicopter, and great price

to
> match! Are gas-powered helis the best for beginners? I would think
> electric-powered helis are lower maintenance machines, although the gas
> models provide more realism. Whats the main differences between gas &
> electric powered helis?
>
> Thanks.....TJM


electric power tend to be easily broken, as the parts have to be light to
counter the low power output and hevay batteries. Unlöess you spend a LOT of
mioney on a decent motor & speed controller, the flight times are usually
pretty short, too. With a glow engine, running methanol/nitro & oil, you can
fly for 10 to 15 minutes, land, refuel and do it again..and again...


--
Dave S, Kuusankoski, Finland.

My return address requires modification before use.
http://personal.inet.fi/koti/david.smith/helicopters/



Old Dec 12, 2002, 02:27 PM
John Banks
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Re: What's a good R/C helicopter kit for a newbie ???

Great idea.

All this new fangled gizzometry makes flying toy choppers a tad boring
really. A bit like some of the contributors to this NG (you excluded).
Maybe we could START with a Century as a basis and modify it.

I would start with whopping great lashings of superglue on the swashplate to
stop it moving up and down. Then perhaps, using a 5 axis CNC milling
centre, modify all the close fitting components so as to gain a modicum of
extra clearance where it's needed.

Hmmm yeeeeesss, I can see it now....

Wibbly wobbly bliss

John


"David Smith" <david.smith@no_spam_pp2.inet.fi> wrote in message
news:Bf5K9.456$ke5.226@read3.inet.fi...
>
> "John Banks" <zoomerman@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
> news05K9.5415$721.4303@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk...
> > Century helis are by far the best helicopters in the whole wide world.
> > You'd be foolish not to buy one.
> >
> > DO NOT touch Thunder Tiger....THEY SUCK! They don't fly very good at

all.
> >
> > Very very rubbishy really.
> >
> > CENTURY - HELIS FIT FOR JEHOVAH!

>
> I think we should start a movement back to fixed pitch helis with no gyros

&
> 4 channel radios - fundamentalist helis!
>
> Dave S
> >
> >
> >
> > "TJM" <tjm@cyberjunkie.com> wrote in message
> > news:uvhlc0pti1e79@corp.supernews.com...
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I am interested in joining the R/C helicopter hobby, but I am a total
> > > beginner and dont know where to start. Would it be better to take a
> > > tutorial at the local hobby club to learn how to fly & maintain a

heli,
> or
> > > should I just buy one and learn on my own? Are there any good videos

or
> > > software that make learning easier? Can anyone recommend a cheap

> beginner
> > > heli (under $1000)?
> > >
> > > Also, I have future aspirations to own & pilot a real helicopter....do

> R/C
> > > helis teach you the fundamentals to fly a real whirly bird?
> > >
> > > Thanks for all your help,
> > > TJM
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>



Old Dec 12, 2002, 02:46 PM
David Smith
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Re: What's a good R/C helicopter kit for a newbie ???

Too late, John, you just described my poor old Nexus. Looks like this
newsgroup has about two people left on it tonight!

--
Dave S

"John Banks" <zoomerman@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
news:Br5K9.5657$721.2091@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk...
> Great idea.
>
> All this new fangled gizzometry makes flying toy choppers a tad boring
> really. A bit like some of the contributors to this NG (you excluded).
> Maybe we could START with a Century as a basis and modify it.
>
> I would start with whopping great lashings of superglue on the swashplate

to
> stop it moving up and down. Then perhaps, using a 5 axis CNC milling
> centre, modify all the close fitting components so as to gain a modicum of
> extra clearance where it's needed.
>
> Hmmm yeeeeesss, I can see it now....
>
> Wibbly wobbly bliss
>
> John
>
>
> "David Smith" <david.smith@no_spam_pp2.inet.fi> wrote in message
> news:Bf5K9.456$ke5.226@read3.inet.fi...
> >
> > "John Banks" <zoomerman@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news05K9.5415$721.4303@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk...
> > > Century helis are by far the best helicopters in the whole wide world.
> > > You'd be foolish not to buy one.
> > >
> > > DO NOT touch Thunder Tiger....THEY SUCK! They don't fly very good at

> all.
> > >
> > > Very very rubbishy really.
> > >
> > > CENTURY - HELIS FIT FOR JEHOVAH!

> >
> > I think we should start a movement back to fixed pitch helis with no

gyros
> &
> > 4 channel radios - fundamentalist helis!
> >
> > Dave S
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "TJM" <tjm@cyberjunkie.com> wrote in message
> > > news:uvhlc0pti1e79@corp.supernews.com...
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > I am interested in joining the R/C helicopter hobby, but I am a

total
> > > > beginner and dont know where to start. Would it be better to take a
> > > > tutorial at the local hobby club to learn how to fly & maintain a

> heli,
> > or
> > > > should I just buy one and learn on my own? Are there any good

videos
> or
> > > > software that make learning easier? Can anyone recommend a cheap

> > beginner
> > > > heli (under $1000)?
> > > >
> > > > Also, I have future aspirations to own & pilot a real

helicopter....do
> > R/C
> > > > helis teach you the fundamentals to fly a real whirly bird?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for all your help,
> > > > TJM
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>



Old Dec 12, 2002, 02:49 PM
GYRO
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Re: What's a good R/C helicopter kit for a newbie ???

Go to http://www.centuryheli.com
Check out Century's new Hawk Sport. R /C Heli's will teach you yhe basic
theory & mechanics of full scale helicopters!
Have fun
"TJM" <tjm@cyberjunkie.com> wrote in message
news:uvhlc0pti1e79@corp.supernews.com...
> Hi all,
>
> I am interested in joining the R/C helicopter hobby, but I am a total
> beginner and dont know where to start. Would it be better to take a
> tutorial at the local hobby club to learn how to fly & maintain a heli, or
> should I just buy one and learn on my own? Are there any good videos or
> software that make learning easier? Can anyone recommend a cheap beginner
> heli (under $1000)?
>
> Also, I have future aspirations to own & pilot a real helicopter....do R/C
> helis teach you the fundamentals to fly a real whirly bird?
>
> Thanks for all your help,
> TJM
>
>



Old Dec 12, 2002, 02:53 PM
John Banks
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Re: What's a good R/C helicopter kit for a newbie ???

My presence is obviously driving everyone away.

I might (Jehovah forbid) let something offensive slip out.

2p

Shit! See what I mean?

John

"David Smith" <david.smith@no_spam_pp2.inet.fi> wrote in message
news:rI5K9.478$ke5.372@read3.inet.fi...
> Too late, John, you just described my poor old Nexus. Looks like this
> newsgroup has about two people left on it tonight!
>
> --
> Dave S
>
> "John Banks" <zoomerman@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:Br5K9.5657$721.2091@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk...
> > Great idea.
> >
> > All this new fangled gizzometry makes flying toy choppers a tad boring
> > really. A bit like some of the contributors to this NG (you excluded).
> > Maybe we could START with a Century as a basis and modify it.
> >
> > I would start with whopping great lashings of superglue on the

swashplate
> to
> > stop it moving up and down. Then perhaps, using a 5 axis CNC milling
> > centre, modify all the close fitting components so as to gain a modicum

of
> > extra clearance where it's needed.
> >
> > Hmmm yeeeeesss, I can see it now....
> >
> > Wibbly wobbly bliss
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> > "David Smith" <david.smith@no_spam_pp2.inet.fi> wrote in message
> > news:Bf5K9.456$ke5.226@read3.inet.fi...
> > >
> > > "John Banks" <zoomerman@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
> > > news05K9.5415$721.4303@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk...
> > > > Century helis are by far the best helicopters in the whole wide

world.
> > > > You'd be foolish not to buy one.
> > > >
> > > > DO NOT touch Thunder Tiger....THEY SUCK! They don't fly very good

at
> > all.
> > > >
> > > > Very very rubbishy really.
> > > >
> > > > CENTURY - HELIS FIT FOR JEHOVAH!
> > >
> > > I think we should start a movement back to fixed pitch helis with no

> gyros
> > &
> > > 4 channel radios - fundamentalist helis!
> > >
> > > Dave S
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "TJM" <tjm@cyberjunkie.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:uvhlc0pti1e79@corp.supernews.com...
> > > > > Hi all,
> > > > >
> > > > > I am interested in joining the R/C helicopter hobby, but I am a

> total
> > > > > beginner and dont know where to start. Would it be better to take

a
> > > > > tutorial at the local hobby club to learn how to fly & maintain a

> > heli,
> > > or
> > > > > should I just buy one and learn on my own? Are there any good

> videos
> > or
> > > > > software that make learning easier? Can anyone recommend a cheap
> > > beginner
> > > > > heli (under $1000)?
> > > > >
> > > > > Also, I have future aspirations to own & pilot a real

> helicopter....do
> > > R/C
> > > > > helis teach you the fundamentals to fly a real whirly bird?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for all your help,
> > > > > TJM
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>



Old Dec 12, 2002, 03:00 PM
David Smith
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Re: What's a good R/C helicopter kit for a newbie ???


"John Banks" <zoomerman@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
news:0Q5K9.97$5W6.28@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk...
> My presence is obviously driving everyone away.
>
> I might (Jehovah forbid) let something offensive slip out.
>
> 2p
>
> Shit! See what I mean?
>
> John
>

Thank J (careful, now..) for that, I thought it was ME!

I wouldn't be here wasting so much time if only I could get out and FLY my
helis!!!!

Dave

> > > > >
> > > > > "TJM" <tjm@cyberjunkie.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:uvhlc0pti1e79@corp.supernews.com...
> > > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am interested in joining the R/C helicopter hobby, but I am a

> > total
> > > > > > beginner and dont know where to start. Would it be better to

take
> a
> > > > > > tutorial at the local hobby club to learn how to fly & maintain

a
> > > heli,
> > > > or
> > > > > > should I just buy one and learn on my own? Are there any good

> > videos
> > > or
> > > > > > software that make learning easier? Can anyone recommend a

cheap
> > > > beginner
> > > > > > heli (under $1000)?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Also, I have future aspirations to own & pilot a real

> > helicopter....do
> > > > R/C
> > > > > > helis teach you the fundamentals to fly a real whirly bird?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks for all your help,
> > > > > > TJM
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>



Old Dec 12, 2002, 03:27 PM
Christer Buschman
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Re: What's a good R/C helicopter kit for a newbie ???

Hi.

I have had some different helicopters...
Kyosho
Hirobo
Sluter/Robbe
Eco (electric)
Then, I discovered Thunder Tiger...

No doubt, Thunder Tiger is my best choice so far.

If you spend some time on assembly and stay clear of the ARF kits,
you get a 100% slop free great flying machine.

All of my raptors (30, 50, 60 & 90) fly on a straight line
forever on full power forward flight hands off.
Not even my Robbe did that, had it for 2 weeks,
my Raptor 60 and 90 was better in the air.
Got rid of it, the Robbe machine I mean.

My raptor 60 (my oldest helicopter) has been so
mutch in the air that I am running on my second
OS 61 WC enigne. The first one is worn out.

I haven't even changed one single link on my raptor 60.

Hirobo makes good helicopters,
but it's almost impossible to make the rotor setup 100% slop free.
I don't like ANY slop in the rotor or tail setup.

No, I haven't seen anything better than Thunder Tiger yet,
and I have spend over 21.000 USD on helicopters in 1 1/2 year... If my wife
knew...
Kyosho really sucks, except for the Caliber 60, great machine.

Haven't tried Xcell, is Xcell any good ?

I don't look at the price because I have learned that expensive don't mean
high quality.

Go For Thunder Tiger !!!

Chris.


"TJM" <tjm@cyberjunkie.com> skrev i melding
news:uvhlc0pti1e79@corp.supernews.com...
> Hi all,
>
> I am interested in joining the R/C helicopter hobby, but I am a total
> beginner and dont know where to start. Would it be better to take a
> tutorial at the local hobby club to learn how to fly & maintain a heli, or
> should I just buy one and learn on my own? Are there any good videos or
> software that make learning easier? Can anyone recommend a cheap beginner
> heli (under $1000)?
>
> Also, I have future aspirations to own & pilot a real helicopter....do R/C
> helis teach you the fundamentals to fly a real whirly bird?
>
> Thanks for all your help,
> TJM
>
>



Old Dec 12, 2002, 04:38 PM
Philip Martin
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Re: What's a good R/C helicopter kit for a newbie ???


"John Banks" <zoomerman@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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> My presence is obviously driving everyone away.
>
> I might (Jehovah forbid) let something offensive slip out.
>
> 2p
>

Ohh Christ, the J word again, this is all getting toooo much.

OK so lets focus the mind then. You are obviously a Century expert (going on
some of your threads), so answer this one then.

What's the exact size of the box the Hawk IV comes in (allowing 5mm all
round for extra packing)?

I dropped a heavy hint a couple of weeks ago and today a parcel arrived from
Midland Heli for the wife!!! And she wont let me open it!!!! I wonder if the
hints for the FF9 and GV1 landed as well?

Confused,

Phil Martin.



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Old Dec 12, 2002, 04:45 PM
Philip Martin
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Re: What's a good R/C helicopter kit for a newbie ???


"Christer Buschman" <buschman@online.no> wrote in message
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> Haven't tried Xcell, is Xcell any good ?
>

Got an X-Cell 60 pro, absolutely superb.

Phil Martin.


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