Aerofever Salto 2.68M - Page 4

Albert_Moto · Dec 10, 2007, 01:34 PM

I visited Flyfly factory on 2weeks ago and here are some manufacturing photos of the Salto. Any comments to this new glider are welcome, just let me know and I may report to the factory to make it better instead of such kinda of never-ending arguement.

Calm down, everybody!!

Albert

DelUK · Dec 10, 2007, 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roger Lombard

I'd miss Steve too so I hope he stays with us.

And what's with this "I'm looking forward to ....?"

You started the thread - I was looking forward to reading about yours

I've been tempted but I have a build queue at the moment and a birthday in February which might be about right so I'm waiting for reports too, but not, it seems from you

And there's Ming's Fox that's going to have to slide in somewhere..............

Roger, I started this thread to canvas opinion before I commit to one ! Didn't expect Steve et al to jump in so quick though.

I have an ASW 28 on the way so that will be my Xmas holiday project.

steve wenban · Dec 10, 2007, 06:44 PM

Just for interest sake and the good words regrading my general demeaner by those that have known me on here for awhile,
My Salto has just turned up at home so cant wait to get home to have a close look .
am expecting the same or better quality than the ASW28 or DG1000 Albert does take info back to the manufactures to improve the quality and fix weak points, so hopefully this will be the gun Sailplane .
SteveW never one to hold a grudge

salisbug · Dec 10, 2007, 08:51 PM

G'day all,

Right - lets get this back on topic.......

I got my Salto last night - very quick delivery thanks Albert.

Had to do a really quick bench fly. Noice. The wings are definately heavier than the previous models and way more torsionally stiff.

Hmm. Can I fit this in before Camperdown?

steve wenban · Dec 10, 2007, 09:48 PM

Go on you know you can , mine will be there we could do a formation shot

SteveW

steve wenban · Dec 11, 2007, 02:57 AM

Damaged goods.
on opening the box I found that the fuse had been damaged looks like a crushing of packing it is repaireable but dissappointing Albert. Pity really I know I would have to beef up the front of the the fuse but have to re paint it as well before I start now

steve wenban · Dec 11, 2007, 04:44 AM

it took all of 10 minutes to put this together

SteveW

Doubletap · Dec 11, 2007, 11:03 AM

Looks nice Steve!

Too bad about the shipping damage; would you say it wasn't properly packed? If so, that's probably something Albert should be made aware of so they can be more careful in the future.

Doubletap

steve wenban · Dec 11, 2007, 01:38 PM

Packaging was pretty good really cant complain about that and it was clearly marked as fragile it consisted of the kit box incase in an 3/4 " styro case wrapped in what looked to be a heavy laminated paper like ummm roof sarking .Of course to most shipping companies fragile mean pack it at the bottom and stack as much heavy stuff as you can on it so it wont move ,that aside first impression is a good one the fuse is huge so the lay up oil cans pretty easy another layer of 8 oz glass just in these huge flattish areas and the high stress areas in the belly pan and nose would not hurt and would only at most add $20 extra to the kit surely ? The wings look solid and are heavier than the ASW or DG but about double the wing area.
the carbon joiner looks OK I'll give it a try but maybe I feel a little dry in its layup so maybe fairly brittle but we'll see. So apart from the damage which is a pain but an easy fix I'm pretty happy with bang for the buck. More to come later.
SteveW

Albert_Moto · Dec 11, 2007, 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by steve wenban

Packaging was pretty good really cant complain about that and it was clearly marked as fragile it consisted of the kit box incase in an 3/4 " styro case wrapped in what looked to be a heavy laminated paper like ummm roof sarking .Of course to most shipping companies fragile mean pack it at the bottom and stack as much heavy stuff as you can on it so it wont move ,that aside first impression is a good one the fuse is huge so the lay up oil cans pretty easy another layer of 8 oz glass just in these huge flattish areas and the high stress areas in the belly pan and nose would not hurt and would only at most add $20 extra to the kit surely ? The wings look solid and are heavier than the ASW or DG but about double the wing area.
the carbon joiner looks OK I'll give it a try but maybe I feel a little dry in its layup so maybe fairly brittle but we'll see. So apart from the damage which is a pain but an easy fix I'm pretty happy with bang for the buck. More to come later.
SteveW

Oh sorry Steve about the damages.

I may add some foam board surrounding the fuselage inside the box to prevent it happens again. It is seldom happening to our packing, u know. . . .

Good luck and let's bring this bird flying asap!!

Albert

DelUK · Dec 14, 2007, 07:45 AM

Hey Steve,

How is the build progressing ? or is it not just yet.....

steve wenban · Dec 14, 2007, 03:02 PM

Not yet its next on the boards but have a kiwi flying mate over at the moment so we are spending most of the time on the slope. I posted a vid from yesterday in the after we did the wing joiner mod on his CMPro Discus and he was wrapped in it.
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=786076

SteveW

madflurry · Dec 16, 2007, 07:15 AM

Gotten the salto not too long ago! And here she is... ready to hit the local slope.. May i know if the recommended CG in the manual is correct? It says 60-64mm from the leading edge. I cant seem to achieve the recommended CG despite adding 450g (including receiver battery) to the nose (already pushed all the way in front). The weight of the plane excluding battery is 1660g. Anyone can help??

Albert_Moto · Dec 16, 2007, 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by madflurry

Gotten the salto not too long ago! And here she is... ready to hit the local slope.. May i know if the recommended CG in the manual is correct? It says 60-64mm from the leading edge. I cant seem to achieve the recommended CG despite adding 450g (including receiver battery) to the nose (already pushed all the way in front). The weight of the plane excluding battery is 1660g. Anyone can help??

Don't worry, the one u saw in the prototype maiden video 2,250gram with a Steel wingjoiner. I will correct the factory specification . . .

I will build mine soon by the weekend and let's see.

Albert

madflurry · Dec 17, 2007, 09:27 AM

wow 2250g..

Please let us know or show us some pictures of your build and how you'd balance the plane!

Anyway my wings came unbalance with 1 weighted 480g and the other 500g. Problem solved after adding 20g of lead weight into the servo placement area.

Dec 10, 2007, 01:34 PM	#46
Albert_Moto Aerofever.net Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Hong Kong Intl, Hong Kong Posts: 389	I visited Flyfly factory on 2weeks ago and here are some manufacturing photos of the Salto. Any comments to this new glider are welcome, just let me know and I may report to the factory to make it better instead of such kinda of never-ending arguement. Calm down, everybody!! Albert Attached Thumbnails Salto Fuselage painting.... 91.6 KB · Views: 438 The balsa wings.... 94.4 KB · Views: 418 Glue and hold it for hours in prior to iron the covering on. 88.7 KB · Views: 512

Dec 11, 2007, 02:57 AM	#51
steve wenban builder , flyer,repairer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Mt Annan Sydney Australia Posts: 11,943	Damaged goods. on opening the box I found that the fuse had been damaged looks like a crushing of packing it is repaireable but dissappointing Albert. Pity really I know I would have to beef up the front of the the fuse but have to re paint it as well before I start now Attached Thumbnails 24.1 KB · Views: 296 27.0 KB · Views: 219 32.3 KB · Views: 290 24.3 KB · Views: 207 26.8 KB · Views: 246 39.2 KB · Views: 270 41.7 KB · Views: 238 39.7 KB · Views: 272 29.8 KB · Views: 256

Dec 11, 2007, 04:44 AM	#52
steve wenban builder , flyer,repairer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Mt Annan Sydney Australia Posts: 11,943	bench flying it took all of 10 minutes to put this together SteveW Attached Thumbnails 81.2 KB · Views: 333 77.9 KB · Views: 487

Dec 16, 2007, 07:15 AM	#58
madflurry Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 111	Gotten the salto not too long ago! And here she is... ready to hit the local slope.. May i know if the recommended CG in the manual is correct? It says 60-64mm from the leading edge. I cant seem to achieve the recommended CG despite adding 450g (including receiver battery) to the nose (already pushed all the way in front). The weight of the plane excluding battery is 1660g. Anyone can help?? Attached Thumbnails My new salto! 52.5 KB · Views: 397

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Dec 10, 2007, 06:44 PM	#48
steve wenban builder , flyer,repairer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Mt Annan Sydney Australia Posts: 11,943	Just for interest sake and the good words regrading my general demeaner by those that have known me on here for awhile, My Salto has just turned up at home so cant wait to get home to have a close look . am expecting the same or better quality than the ASW28 or DG1000 Albert does take info back to the manufactures to improve the quality and fix weak points, so hopefully this will be the gun Sailplane . SteveW never one to hold a grudge

Dec 10, 2007, 08:51 PM	#49
salisbug Scale Nazi - apparently...... Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 2,771	G'day all, Right - lets get this back on topic....... I got my Salto last night - very quick delivery thanks Albert. Had to do a really quick bench fly. Noice. The wings are definately heavier than the previous models and way more torsionally stiff. Hmm. Can I fit this in before Camperdown?

Dec 10, 2007, 09:48 PM	#50
steve wenban builder , flyer,repairer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Mt Annan Sydney Australia Posts: 11,943	Go on you know you can , mine will be there we could do a formation shot SteveW

Dec 11, 2007, 11:03 AM	#53
Doubletap Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: PRC (People's Republic of Commiefornia) Posts: 5,806	Looks nice Steve! Too bad about the shipping damage; would you say it wasn't properly packed? If so, that's probably something Albert should be made aware of so they can be more careful in the future. Doubletap

Dec 11, 2007, 01:38 PM	#54
steve wenban builder , flyer,repairer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Mt Annan Sydney Australia Posts: 11,943	Packaging was pretty good really cant complain about that and it was clearly marked as fragile it consisted of the kit box incase in an 3/4 " styro case wrapped in what looked to be a heavy laminated paper like ummm roof sarking .Of course to most shipping companies fragile mean pack it at the bottom and stack as much heavy stuff as you can on it so it wont move ,that aside first impression is a good one the fuse is huge so the lay up oil cans pretty easy another layer of 8 oz glass just in these huge flattish areas and the high stress areas in the belly pan and nose would not hurt and would only at most add $20 extra to the kit surely ? The wings look solid and are heavier than the ASW or DG but about double the wing area. the carbon joiner looks OK I'll give it a try but maybe I feel a little dry in its layup so maybe fairly brittle but we'll see. So apart from the damage which is a pain but an easy fix I'm pretty happy with bang for the buck. More to come later. SteveW

Dec 14, 2007, 07:45 AM	#56
DelUK Slope convert/addict Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Romford, Essex. UK Posts: 196	Hey Steve, How is the build progressing ? or is it not just yet.....

Dec 14, 2007, 03:02 PM	#57
steve wenban builder , flyer,repairer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Mt Annan Sydney Australia Posts: 11,943	Not yet its next on the boards but have a kiwi flying mate over at the moment so we are spending most of the time on the slope. I posted a vid from yesterday in the after we did the wing joiner mod on his CMPro Discus and he was wrapped in it. http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=786076 SteveW

Dec 17, 2007, 09:27 AM	#60
madflurry Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 111	wow 2250g.. Please let us know or show us some pictures of your build and how you'd balance the plane! Anyway my wings came unbalance with 1 weighted 480g and the other 500g. Problem solved after adding 20g of lead weight into the servo placement area.