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Old Dec 02, 2007, 09:48 AM
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Electric Flying in Adelaide...?

A neighbour flying friend has made his 10th work related trip to Aussieland and was surprised to learn that two LHS's in Adelaide had not heard of Precision Aerobatics in Sydney. PA make the "fiberfusion" line of ARF's.

This raises the question.."how popular is electric flying in Australia?"

We in North America just asume that electric flying is growing at the same rate world wide, but maybe this is not the case due to the availability of product.

So if your in the Adelaide area and fly electric, chime in here and I'll let my friend know about you.

thanks,
Bill
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Old Dec 02, 2007, 12:13 PM
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Bill

Under the Regional forums, there is an Australia one, might be worth also asking the question there.
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Old Dec 02, 2007, 05:54 PM
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Electric flight has been the fastest growing section in model aviation in Australia for some years. I might also venture to say that relatively there have been some areas of this where we have been well ahead of N. America in part due to our proximity to Asia and some very alert importers. How a do I know this? Well I write the electric column for RCMNews, one of the two homegrown model aviation magazines here in Oz.
Please be aware that much of Precision Aerobatics sales may be direct from their NSW head office at this time as they are working to build their retail network here but our latest issue featured two full colour full page ad's from them and I know that some dealers are promoting them well. I also know that there are quite a few of their models out there and being flown.
There are clubs who specialise in electric flight but generally it is just part of the scene and in our own club with close to 200 members about half have some form of electric model but maybe only 10-15% fly exclusively electric. It would be well worth your friend's time if in Adelaide to call at Model Flight who may be able to point him in the right direction. I will admit that we tend to have a much more rigid structural organisation for model flying and most model fliers in Australia will belong to a club to gain both the facilities and public liability insurance. Park flying unless approved by local bylaw is not the norm. However, overseas guests usually receive a warm welcome from clubs and one I know in Adelaide, the Constellation club, would offer such I'm sure.
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Old Dec 03, 2007, 10:11 AM
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Appreciate the replys and the info IS being monitored by my friend AS WE READ.
In my Canadian East Coast area we have a local group of a dozen electric flyers who search out the vacant soccer fields, etc, on weekends and summer evening to get their parkflyers airborne. This was the sort of activity that my friend was not seeing in Adelaide and which caused him to wonder if there were bylaws preventing this activity.


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Old Dec 03, 2007, 06:51 PM
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Appreciate the replys and the info IS being monitored by my friend AS WE READ.
In my Canadian East Coast area we have a local group of a dozen electric flyers who search out the vacant soccer fields, etc, on weekends and summer evening to get their parkflyers airborne. This was the sort of activity that my friend was not seeing in Adelaide and which caused him to wonder if there were bylaws preventing this activity.


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I cannot speak for Adelaide as with regards to by-laws with regards to parkflyers however there is a a good number of us Australia wide that do as you say seek out parks and sports ovals for electric flight.

I am based in Perth Western Australia and there are a good number off us that do this on a daily or weekly basis, to my knowledge at this time we have no laws preventing us from doing this however we are very careful not to draw undue attention to ourselves safety is always a priority. We have one club here dedicated to electric flight only which is also very popular but the club thing is certainly not for me and there are plenty of other people who feel the same way.

Only time will tell if this luxury of flying at locations of choice will continue in the future or if some irresponsible people will wreck it for the rest of us but while its available I will certainly make the most of it

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Old Dec 03, 2007, 07:47 PM
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Ah, spoken like a true "lone wolf parkflyer" ....know how you feel!

That is what our group consists of...safety oriented flyers that have been through the club scene and have elected by choice to play a different hand this time 'round. However it is true that fighting city hall for a respectable flying site, that's not out in the boonies, is a major reason for banding together under a club format.

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Old Dec 03, 2007, 09:41 PM
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A neighbour flying friend has made his 10th work related trip to Aussieland.

So if your in the Adelaide area and fly electric, chime in here and I'll let my friend know about you.

thanks,
Bill

Hi Bill

Are your reffering to Rick MacDonald, I invited him to come to the club, I fly at, http://concordemfc.com/. Rick seemed interested to see my stryker go through is paces, sadly he could not come out again on the sunday.

I offered him to fly but, I fly the other mode to him so it wasn't a option.

Electric flight at concorde is going well but we still have a lot of glows in the club. The glow guys are keeping there mind open to electrics anyway, so we will convert them slowly lol.

Regards Gary
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Old Dec 05, 2007, 03:49 AM
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For my 10c worth.
I have been flying electric only for many years now and am here to tell you it is huge over here. (turnover of electric planes in LHS's is proof)

It's just that the vast majority of Aussies E-flyers can not be bothered with the BS that goes with clubs.
They don't whinge or complain, they just mind their own business and follow their own line of fun without making a big deal of things.
So they stay well under the radar...

I can name 25 E-pilots (personal aquaintances - not cyber friends) who park fly & without exception, are completely turned off by the club culture
(Mainly because of the attitudes displayed to electric flyers)

So for me and 25 others anyway, flying models in parks is the norm.

The club people don't see us so naturally think we don't exist.
Hence the attitude of flying 'toys' in the parks.
But that's a good thing. They fly their tanks a long way away from me & I like that.

Tell your mate to go over to the Australia forum & ask there.
Don't forget there are thousands out there also who do not yet know of rc groups or subscribe to other sites only

phil
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Old Dec 05, 2007, 08:47 PM
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Hi Bill

Are your reffering to Rick MacDonald, I invited him to come to the club, I fly at, http://concordemfc.com/. Rick seemed interested to see my stryker go through is paces, sadly he could not come out again on the sunday.

I offered him to fly but, I fly the other mode to him so it wasn't a option.

Electric flight at concorde is going well but we still have a lot of glows in the club. The glow guys are keeping there mind open to electrics anyway, so we will convert them slowly lol.

Regards Gary
Hi Gary,
You win the prize...you nailed it..! Rick was back in your area for the past 12 days or so and I believe he finished the business end and is now visiting a friend near Sydney before returning home via Vancouver...he may be back there in February. Now that I have blown his cover, he may come out of hiding...Oh, I'll pay for that..!

He did tell me about visiting your club, and about you flying on Mode 1 vs our Mode 2. I guess he did not see the park flying going on that he expected and when he relayed that to me, I started this thread. He will be glad to learn that electric is indeed alive and well there. He would not mind joining a club there, I have been suggesting that he park some radio gear over there, since he makes frequent visits, he would be ready to go on short notice.
I appreciate the amount of feedback this thread has received, and thank you all on Rick's behalf.

Bill
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Old Dec 09, 2007, 11:15 AM
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Hi everyone, I'm not "hiding" I've just been working and traveling around the world...

I met Gary in October and it was very nice of him to invite me to visit his club. I was very impressed with his highly modified Stryker!

This latest trip I didn't have a chance to do anything but work. I stayed in the town of Semaphore on the coast and of course there are many parks nearby as well as a beautiful beach with many secluded areas. How nice it would be to be able to "park and fly" there!

I will be returning in February and this time will be more prepared. Meanwhile I'm going back to winter with cold unpredictable weather and very short days...

Cheers,

Rick
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Old Dec 17, 2007, 07:33 PM
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Hi Rick

I am sorry to say that the Stryker is no more. I was using an old esc in the styker and the bec failed in flight, she was at about 200 feet at the time and I must of had a little left aileron at the time of failure. So the good old stryker rolled over to vertical and went in, you should of seen the bounce, from where I was in the flight box. It seemed to bounce up at least 6 feet as bits flew off and out, surprisely the all the gear survived, including the lipo battery ( except the esc, which caused the crash).

I guess I could of repaired it but, I decided to get a new one. but the local supplier is out of stock, hopefully i will have another one by the time of your next visit, I will make the new the same as the old one but I will take it from 3s to a 4s battery to improve the speed and power.

I have just moved to 2.4ghz xps, so I have a couple of older 36meg radio's here, that I am not going to use, maybe I could get one switched over to your mode, so you can use it on your visits, plus I have heap of aircraft too.

Regards Gary
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Old Dec 17, 2007, 10:02 PM
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Hi Gary,
That's a great offer your making Rick; wish I could get my 6 foot frame into his "carry on luggage" for the February trip!

We were out Saturday for a couple of flights in -14C temp with zero wind..then it was off to the local coffee hut where "cold footed Rick" was seen making short work of a bowl of hot Chili..!
Quite a far cry from the weather you have right now. It's our time of year to build!

cheers for the holidays..!

Bill
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Old Dec 17, 2007, 10:06 PM
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EP flying has exploded around Brisbane with tons and tons of park fliers everywhere. I fly at a club, but have no issues with the slimer squad anymore. One 10 min 'ride' in my 600g S&B Komet packing 400W would pretty much end any arguments about EP being heavy and slow and short flight duration. 5 years ago I was the only ep flyer there of any kind... Now even the worst nitro heads have at least 1 ep model .
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Old Dec 18, 2007, 01:13 AM
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EP flying has exploded around Brisbane with tons and tons of park fliers everywhere. I fly at a club, but have no issues with the slimer squad anymore. One 10 min 'ride' in my 600g S&B Komet packing 400W would pretty much end any arguments about EP being heavy and slow and short flight duration. 5 years ago I was the only ep flyer there of any kind... Now even the worst nitro heads have at least 1 ep model .
Hi Googleplex

My club concorde is going the same way you are, My stryker and my cub soon shut up any mention of slow and underpowered electrics, lol.

Funny thing is that most of the stirring comes from other electric flyers and not the glow flyers.
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Old Dec 18, 2007, 01:33 AM
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Hi Gary,
That's a great offer your making Rick; wish I could get my 6 foot frame into his "carry on luggage" for the February trip!

We were out Saturday for a couple of flights in -14C temp with zero wind..then it was off to the local coffee hut where "cold footed Rick" was seen making short work of a bowl of hot Chili..!
Quite a far cry from the weather you have right now. It's our time of year to build!

cheers for the holidays..!

Bill
Hey Bill

Of course you would be welcome too, summer can be a building time for us too, it depends on how hot it is, we can get to and over 40c on some summer days. Can tell you I dont go out in that unless I have too.

Regards Gary
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