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Old Dec 18, 2012, 08:36 AM
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There's lots of trivia Re where the TERM Hoosier came from.
Most should be on the net.

I HAD to change my name FROM Northwest Cutout Service due to move.

I relocated from Washington St to Indy because of the Grandkids.
10 yrs out there was enough to see and do most of the stuff I wanted to do.

Yeah I know a little about Gary IN.
Lots of heavy industry,
It is RIGHT AT the South End of Lake Mich, so expect WINDY.
Indiana Dunes are Right around the Corner if you like Slope Soaring.
I 65 out of Indy ends right there in Gary just before you jump on the Skway to Chicago.

I've heard nothing re Sonic Liner so far.
I'll look it up and take a gander tho.
It's a kinda Starship Thang as I recall.
DO they Have some PLANS in mind already ?

L8r

Bob
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Old Dec 18, 2012, 12:07 PM
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The one nice thing of living in the Mojavie Desert in Southern California is that I often do our New Years Fly-In in short sleeve shirts!! July and August though? I go to indoor RC Race Tracks LOL.
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Old Dec 27, 2012, 11:07 PM
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Where IS your LIKE IT CG @ ?

Try measuring also from the TOP Inlets back as
everybody's NOSE may not be the same length anymore ;-}

we just wanna know :-)

Bob
Sorry I never got back to you on this. The CG that works best for me is 1" in front of the top fuse spar (the widest part of the top fuse)

Also another question. I've been putting more air time on this model and I am trying to figure out, does having the wings out actually increase lift at all, or does it just dramatically decrease roll rate? I've been playing with it and I don't see much difference in top speed between wings out and swept. I'm also not sure that it provides any more lift with the wings out.

What are your findings?
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Old Dec 28, 2012, 06:03 AM
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Sorry I never got back to you on this. The CG that works best for me is 1" in front of the top fuse spar (the widest part of the top fuse)

Also another question. I've been putting more air time on this model and I am trying to figure out, does having the wings out actually increase lift at all, or does it just dramatically decrease roll rate? I've been playing with it and I don't see much difference in top speed between wings out and swept. I'm also not sure that it provides any more lift with the wings out.

What are your findings?
Hi, Mine definitely lifts more with the wings out. I beat up the runway with wings in, full chat, open the wings and she lifts up about 20deg's.
My balance point is right on the widest point spar.

Have you tried moving the CG back?

Phillip C
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Old Dec 28, 2012, 06:14 AM
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I feel like wings out doesn't give me "more" lift so much as a slightly different cg (or is it centre of lift?).
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Old Dec 28, 2012, 06:49 AM
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It has a little more lift because the wing overlap with the fuselage when it is on backward position...most important, when the wing is out at maximum wing span stall speed is reduced...
Just land at sweep position and prove it
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Old Dec 28, 2012, 07:16 AM
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It has a little more lift because the wing overlap with the fuselage when it is on backward position...most important, when the wing is out at maximum wing span stall speed is reduced...
Just land at sweep position and prove it
Oh yeah, I just looked at my F-14, the wing sort of tucks in to the fuse when they sweep!
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Old Dec 28, 2012, 10:54 AM
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Thanks for the feedback. Yep, I see the wings do tuck into the side of the fuse, reducing the overall wing area, so it makes sense, and I guess I've never tried landing with the wings swept. I just didn't visually notice a large increase in airspeed when the wings were swept, and only noticed a change in center of lift (needing to adjust trim) when the wings were extended.
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Old Dec 28, 2012, 11:05 AM
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Not the same plane but my f111 are affected lot less in windy days with the wing full back... In upwind direction it has better speed and suffer less bumps
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Old Dec 28, 2012, 04:48 PM
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wing depth

Hi,

When wing is full forward, it produces more lift than full back although almost the same wing area at the same speed. It's given by the relative wing depth. Also full forward is better stability and higher inertia, but less maneuvrability. On Tomcat model You can see this behaviour very well. Full forward it's like glider, full aft it's like rocket. It's working exactly like on the real one, although speeds are totally different.

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Old Dec 31, 2012, 02:37 PM
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CNC Kit for F14

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I am making a small batch of CNC cut kits and I just got the first set in for testing. I figured I would document the build for anyone wanting to make their own.

Birdofplay cut the parts for me and they arrived neatly packed in a pizza box. The quality and fit of the parts is absolutely top-notch.
Do you have any kits available for the F14 Tomcat? I have an interest to build the version with the wing that can transition in flight.
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Old Dec 31, 2012, 02:38 PM
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Do you have any foam kits available for the Tomcat with the wing that can move during flight. If you have kits available, please let me know the price.
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Old Dec 31, 2012, 02:58 PM
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Of course I do !

I've been making and shipping them all over the planet since 2007.

Bob
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Old Jan 01, 2013, 06:48 PM
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Hi guys,
long time around these parts and finally getting round to finishing my F-14!
Quick question; in this video is my wing swing enough? I have a funny feeling that with the wings fully swept open it's not enough;
http://www.flickr.com/photos/29621041@N02/8335871998/
(Video is still processing at the moment so bear with it!)
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Old Jan 01, 2013, 07:30 PM
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Hi guys,
long time around these parts and finally getting round to finishing my F-14!
Quick question; in this video is my wing swing enough? I have a funny feeling that with the wings fully swept open it's not enough;
http://www.flickr.com/photos/29621041@N02/8335871998/
(Video is still processing at the moment so bear with it!)
I can't quite decide whether it's enough, but if you're worried about the flying, it should fly fine!
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