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Old Nov 06, 2007, 10:27 AM
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Does "stable" always mean slow? Reccomendation for fast/docile planes?

The two planes in my hangar that are getting the most attention and flight time right now are my heavily modded Hobbyzone Supercub and my new Venom Parkfighter P-51.

It leaves me wanting something in between. A plane with gobs of speed like the Mustang but with the self correcting and forgiving nature of the Supercub.

I feel like flying the Mustang is a 7 minute wrestling match and I dread the landing the whole time... and flying the Supercub is a prelude to a nap! I love both planes but I want to both have cake and ingest it too!

Is this possible? What planes would you recommend?

How fast can you make a Multiplex Easystar go? What does it take?
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Old Nov 06, 2007, 11:11 AM
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The two planes in my hangar that are getting the most attention and flight time right now are my heavily modded Hobbyzone Supercub and my new Venom Parkfighter P-51.

It leaves me wanting something in between. A plane with gobs of speed like the Mustang but with the self correcting and forgiving nature of the Supercub.

I feel like flying the Mustang is a 7 minute wrestling match and I dread the landing the whole time... and flying the Supercub is a prelude to a nap! I love both planes but I want to both have cake and ingest it too!

Is this possible? What planes would you recommend?

How fast can you make a Multiplex Easystar go? What does it take?
80 mph with an E-Flite Six Series 2700kV motor. Look for a forum member named joeknight... that's what he uses. I use the same motor only with a lower kV of 2000, which is STILL plenty enough power to make the Easy Star scream (for me, anyway).

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Old Nov 06, 2007, 11:24 AM
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Sounds like a Easy Glider to me. Nice and responcive, but easy going. Put in the power system that suits your needs.
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Old Nov 06, 2007, 11:29 AM
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You might want to try an EPP flying wing. The Edge RC Overlord is quite stable, and, even with a brushed Speed 400 motor, is significantly faster the the Super Cub. It also has the advantage of not breaking if you have a less then perfect landing.
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Old Nov 06, 2007, 11:46 AM
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80 mph with an E-Flite Six Series 2700kV motor. Look for a forum member named joeknight... that's what he uses. I use the same motor only with a lower kV of 2000, which is STILL plenty enough power to make the Easy Star scream (for me, anyway).

Chuck
heeyy.... cool! This is what I am looking for. I assume these are outrunners... do you fly on 3s? How many amps are you drawing? What kind of reinforcement have you done to yours? I will look up joeknight asap. Thanks!


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Sounds like a Easy Glider to me. Nice and responcive, but easy going. Put in the power system that suits your needs.
I looked at the EzG... is nice and big and cool looking but IIRC, its not hands off like the Easy Star... not that I couldn't handle that but I am looking to fill a particular niche in my hangar.

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You might want to try an EPP flying wing. The Edge RC Overlord is quite stable, and, even with a brushed Speed 400 motor, is significantly faster the the Super Cub. It also has the advantage of not breaking if you have a less then perfect landing.
From what I know of wings, they don't generally right/self orient themselves, do they? Again, looking for something that will rip yet be a really pussy cat to fly...like the SC.

Thanks so much for the suggestions!. You're guys are great.
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heeyy.... cool! This is what I am looking for. I assume these are outrunners... do you fly on 3s? How many amps are you drawing? What kind of reinforcement have you done to yours? I will look up joeknight asap. Thanks!
I fly on 2s and 3s on my 2000kV Six Series. I sent Joe an e-mail for you... he'll tell you how to beef up the Easy Star if you want that kind of power that the 2700kV can give you...

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No, the wings I referenced will not self right. What they will do is hold whatever attitude you put them in, i.e. if you start a gentle turn they will fly in circles until you tell them to do something else. They will also hold a straight and level flight path independently, unless the wind is very strong.

If you really want a hands off plane, the ES is probably a better choice. A stock ES with the brushed motor is slightly faster then a stock SC.
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Old Nov 06, 2007, 12:09 PM
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I fly on 2s and 3s on my 2000kV Six Series. I sent Joe an e-mail for you... he'll tell you how to beef up the Easy Star if you want that kind of power that the 2700kV can give you...

Chuck
Thanks, Chuck! I am very interested in what he has to say.
I think this is the way I'm going to go. Do you have ailerons on yours?


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No, the wings I referenced will not self right. What they will do is hold whatever attitude you put them in, i.e. if you start a gentle turn they will fly in circles until you tell them to do something else. They will also hold a straight and level flight path independently, unless the wind is very strong.

If you really want a hands off plane, the ES is probably a better choice. A stock ES with the brushed motor is slightly faster then a stock SC.
Well it sounds like they are a bit more forgiving than the Mustang... while it probably won't be my next plane, who sells the Edge RC Overlord? It sounds like a fun ship.
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Overlord flying wing is here:

http://edgerc.com/overlord.htm
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From what I have read time and time and time and time again the stryker is a stable, fast, forgiving plane that will slow down for a nice relaxed landing. You can buy a bare fuse for not many $$$ and fit your own brushless motor for a fast and stable plane, seems a good choice to me. I do have an unbuilt kit that also fits the bill but its out of production now, the mulitplex space scooter. With a decent brushless setup it should do 80mph but has self levelling ability and is pretty docile at low speeds, can't wait to kit mine out, hard to find now though.
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Old Nov 06, 2007, 05:52 PM
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The overlord looks neat...I am going to bookmark that one.

I have considered the F27 Stryker...but in this case its not quite what I'm looking for. Like other wings, it doesn't seem to have the hands-off flight ability that I'm looking for. It does have a loyal following though and I don't doubt that its deserved...

The Space Scooter does look pretty darned great but you're right. It seems to be unavailable.

Thanks for the suggestions. The Easy* is looking like the winner.
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Old Nov 06, 2007, 08:01 PM
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Hi all;
this is the Eflite 6 2700Kv 400W
http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...rodID=EFLM2005
And this is the ESc that goes with it
http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...rodID=EFLA312B
And a Evo lipo 2170 Mah 3S 25C Powering a Apc6X4E .
Static 34 Amp....22900 Rpm
The wings are reenforced withcarbon fiber strips 1/4"X.064" inserted into
and vertical to the wing CAed in.
The horizontal stab is also reenforced with carbon strip 1/8"x.033" inserted
and vertical to the stab surface.
The vertical stab is also reenforced with a carbon tube 1/8" Dia.
The tail boom is reenforced with a carbon tube 1/4" Dia from the CG point to
very end of the boom.
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I have EZ Star with 2000 KV E-flight six series - it might suit you. My Swift 2 wing from www.nesail.com is also surprisingly stable (and I'm not an expert flier by any means). It is a blast to fly, and is cheap. Get an Esskay 400XT when on sale at Hobby Lobby, or an equievalent $20 motor.
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Hi all;
this is the Eflite 6 2700Kv 400W
http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...rodID=EFLM2005
And this is the ESc that goes with it
http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...rodID=EFLA312B
And a Evo lipo 2170 Mah 3S 25C Powering a Apc6X4E .
Static 34 Amp....22900 Rpm
The wings are reenforced withcarbon fiber strips 1/4"X.064" inserted into
and vertical to the wing CAed in.
The horizontal stab is also reenforced with carbon strip 1/8"x.033" inserted
and vertical to the stab surface.
The vertical stab is also reenforced with a carbon tube 1/8" Dia.
The tail boom is reenforced with a carbon tube 1/4" Dia from the CG point to
very end of the boom.
Joe
Hi Joe,

Thanks for coming through...

If that doesn't do it, nothing will. A stable plane that will definitely introduce some pucker factor.

Thanks again,

Chuck
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Hi Joe,

Thanks for coming through...

If that doesn't do it, nothing will. A stable plane that will definitely introduce some pucker factor.

Thanks again,

Chuck
Chuck your welcome...not only that EZ* gets up to 2500' in less that one
minute then you can shut the motor off and just soar
and thermal..LOL
I also have one with the Eflite 2000Kv 300W and that one I use Elite 1500
NiMh 2/3A 8cell packs and a Apc 7X5E cut down to a 6X5,this one I buit with very light reenforcements for light weight ,and I use it only to get high and seach for thermal (I don`t horse around with this one)
And another one with a Atlas 2308/26 out runner
http://www.hobby-lobby.com/atlas2308.htm with a Apc 7X5e cut down
to 6X5 this one I use only to fly very low 1' to 4' high (low)
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