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Old Oct 11, 2007, 04:17 PM   #16
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Wow, I did not expect such and answer.

I believe this will turn off many of your support base. Its the V1, V2 users who supported you with buying the product and provided feedback that prompted for V3. I don't think it is fair to drop them like orphans without an upgrade path to V3.

My two cents. No offences intended.

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well said//
I can't believe that they won't credit the first generation users who went through the PIA magnet sensors or the optic sensors..They never seemed to work right,but we kept on hoping for a better product..

what about the users who have continued to buy the the new sensors ie brushless rpm sensor,altimeter expander,airspeed expander multifunction expander,logging memory expander...At 30.00 a pop,that is close to 120.00 in the last few months..I have continued to support eagle tree systems for 2 years..Come on Billpa,I know you don't want to lose us to MR,who also feature a thrust sensor..I dont want a strait trade Bill,just something to show you do appreciate the beta testers.

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Old Oct 11, 2007, 04:24 PM   #17
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"Greatly increased resolution/accuracy"

Where does this come in to play? Is current still only accurate to 0.1A or has that been improved? Are the basic function and accuracy/resolution regarding Volts and Amp measurement still the same? If they are then I'll keep the V2 as I don't need the higher Voltage and current features.

Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

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Currently it is 0.12A and 0.07V, if I remember correct. I also hope this is improved as it will make it more useful for bench testing motors and give more accurate mAh display among other things...

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Old Oct 11, 2007, 04:24 PM   #18
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Oh? Is the mAh reading not accurate?
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Old Oct 11, 2007, 04:42 PM   #19
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Most things you buy in this hobby are not upgradeable in that way. WHen I bought a Spektrum DX6, they did not offer an upgrade path to the DX7 when it came out. Same with motors, servos, ESC, etc. As long as the continue to support the firmware and accessories, I think that is all you can really expect. Of course, There is never any harm in asking.

My $.02.
I understand you have the elogger for quite sometime and you must have reclaimed the value out of it.

It was just a thought. No offences intended...

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Old Oct 11, 2007, 05:07 PM   #20
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If you really think you are missing out on features then sell the V2 in the forums now and buy the v3. You won't loose much money at all in the process.

FWIW - my motors and ESCs often go from one plane to the next when I get tired of the first one.

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Old Oct 12, 2007, 02:04 PM   #21
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Oh? Is the mAh reading not accurate?
Depends. When flying with mixed current draw, it's probably OK. The problem is when charging/discharging with a constant current. Then the accuracy of the mAh reading depends on how close this current is to the "steps" created by the current resolution. Higher resolution will give better results, especially for smaller currents.



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Gotcha. Is the current resolution a setting you choose yourself? Above you mentioned something about 0.12A. So, over the course of an hour, you'd be off by a max of, what, 60 mAh?
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Old Oct 14, 2007, 05:28 PM   #23
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Darn. I didn't even get a chance to make the two suggestions I had:

1) clock timestamps on the data
2) model recognition when you plug it in

I am glad to see that the USB plug is on the outside this time, but still wish it was a mini-USB instead of a four-pin connector.

I've got one on each of my three helis, and in fact, a brand new v2 that's only been installed a week/has yet to fly. It should still meet my needs, so while I'd love the new, the old looks to still fit my needs.

It looks like it's thicker, and thus implies that it's heavier. Are there any weight comparisons between the v2 and v3?

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Old Oct 15, 2007, 03:39 AM   #24
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Gotcha. Is the current resolution a setting you choose yourself? Above you mentioned something about 0.12A. So, over the course of an hour, you'd be off by a max of, what, 60 mAh?
The resolution is not selectable by the user, at least not in the old unit. Offset might be in the range 0-120 mAh over one hour. Maybe someone could give us the resolution of the new, improved version??

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Old Oct 15, 2007, 11:35 PM   #25
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Hi All,

Sorry for the delayed reply.

The internal resolution of the V3 is approximately 0.05A and 0.02V. There are also several enhancements to attain better accuracy and maintain it over time.

Regarding upgrade, the most important thing to us is to have happy customers. Based on your feedback, we've decided to offer a V1/2 to V3 upgrade rebate of $10. This is about a 15% discount for customers who continue to support us. And you get to keep the V1/V2!

To take advantage of this rebate, purchase your V3 from any authorized dealer or direct from us. Within 30 days of receiving the V3, mail in a copy of your V3 and V1/V2 purchase receipts, and we will mail you (or paypal you at your option) the $10 rebate. Rebate requests should go to:

Eagle Tree Systems, LLC
ATTN: V3 Rebate
4957 Lakemont Blvd. SE,
Suite C-4, PMB 235
Bellevue, WA 98006

Regards,

Bill, for Eagle Tree

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Thanks

Bill, Thanks for the rebate offer. Though 10 dollars may mean little for few, your offer to keep the v1/v2 will enable to sell it for half price and that combined with 10 dollar rebate will make the upgrade to V3 worth every effort. Thanks again.

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Old Oct 19, 2007, 06:01 PM   #27
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if anyone likes to sell there now "outdated" v2 for a good price let me know
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Old Oct 19, 2007, 08:39 PM   #28
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Mine does what I wanted so I can hardly call it outdated.
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Old Oct 22, 2007, 10:22 AM   #29
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Bill:

Tower has the page up for pre-ordering V3:

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXTFS1&P=7

Do you know if this will be the Deans or wire lead version? Will Tower be carrying both?

Steve

Edit - I figured out that is the code for the Deans version. Have they ordered the leads version from you?
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Old Oct 23, 2007, 10:15 AM   #30
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Bill, the Deans are just used for reading the voltage now? the amps are taken with the hall ring sensor now?
where does the amp lead plug into the recorder, Temp pins?
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